Ultra Light Batteries

[herrhelmet]

Originally Posted by Johnf3

I don't see the weights listed for the Ballistic batteries. What does the 8 cell weigh?

Weight: 825 grams (1.81 lb) It weighs 5 ounces more than the Sycl 4.6 Ah because of the plastic case.

[herrhelmet]

I've been asked for pictures of Sycl battery installation on KTM 450s and 525s.

The 2.3 Ah works great for normal conditions. It just gets zip tied in. Not the cleanest install, but a customer sent this to me:



Notmybikemodelname and I use the larger 4.6 Ah for the extra power and also for very cold weather starts...



No foam or rubber needed. Just make sure everything is tight.

One other comment about zip ties. They do wear out over time. I replace mine once a year. They just get brittle and could break.

(I've also wound up with a whole bundle of brittle ones I brought out with me for field repairs that were no good.)

Next I will post the Ballistic battery installation in an F650 GS.

[tmotten]

Instead of zip ties it would be maybe better to sew some double sided velcro onto thick elastic strap. Basically a mini version of the Andy Strapz.

[herrhelmet]

Originally Posted by tmotten

Instead of zip ties it would be maybe better to sew some double sided velcro onto thick elastic strap. Basically a mini version of the Andy Strapz.

Good idea. I think you can just get those off-the-shelf in different sizes. Probably last a lot longer than zip ties. Zip ties seem the quick solution for most because you don't need to cut up your battery box to modify. Only in some cases you need to drill small holes.

[Sparrowhawk]

What's the difference in the way you and ballistic calculate an amp-hour ratings?

I assume cell-construction wise the SYCL 4.6 AH batttery is the same as the 8 cell Ballistic battery since both use A123 cells, the main difference being the hard-shell case for the Ballistic. The SYCL is listed at 4.6 AH while the Ballistic specification lists 15 Pbeq A/H. How does one compare the different specifications?

[herrhelmet]

Originally Posted by Sparrowhawk

What's the difference in the way you and ballistic calculate an amp-hour ratings?

I assume cell-construction wise the SYCL 4.6 AH batttery is the same as the 8 cell Ballistic battery since both use A123 cells, the main difference being the hard-shell case for the Ballistic. The SYCL is listed at 4.6 AH while the Ballistic specification lists 15 Pbeq A/H. How does one compare the different specifications?

Both batteries use identical cells. I started using the 2.3, 4.6 and 6.9 Ah because that's how A123 Systems rated the cells

http://www.a123systems.com/products-...rical-cell.htm

A bank of four 3.3V cells = 13.2V at 2.3 AH. 2 banks in parallel doubles that to 4.6, etc.

Ballistic and other manufacturers are going with the Pbeq rating to make it easier to compare to lead acid. Even though their actual AH capacity is less they have a more favorable discharge rating, so they use that chemistry term.

You could compare a 15 Pbeq A/H battery to the lead acid with the same A/H rating. But the CCA of the LiFePO4 will always be higher.

Ballistic also lists a slightly higher CCA rating for their comparable units. I can't honestly say why. It's possible because of their construction, less current is lost going through the cables that the Sycl batteries have.

[GabeRmrz]

I don't see anything about foam spacers when I look at the ballistic batteries. Do you sell them separately?

[herrhelmet]

Originally Posted by CRABWALK

I don't see anything about foam spacers when I look at the ballistic batteries. Do you sell them separately?

Sorry for the slow response. Here is what they pack in now. There is a molded piece of foam that is designed to be cut and used in an oversize battery box.

[herrhelmet]

I'm getting new inventory on Ballistic batteries so these need to go.

We have an unlimited $10 coupon code: BARSTOW, but the sale prices below are good until Thanksgiving day...

The Sycl 4.6Ah battery is on sale for $129.99 + $10 Off ADV rider coupon code:

BARSTOW

So you end up paying only $119.99

These batteries are perfect for custom builds and 4 stroke bikes up to 650cc.



The Ballistic EVO2 8 Cell ON SALE FOR $139.99

(Lowest price anywhere with an additional $10 Off ADV rider coupon code: BARSTOW)

So you end up paying only $129.99

The Ballistic EVO2 8 Cell uses the same A123 Cells (not knockoffs or remanufactured) is in a water/heat resistant case and offers conventionally places hi-quality brass terminals. No need for quick-disconnects. Because of better contact between battery terminals and the cells they offer slightly better cranking power too.These are our workhorse batteries for many, many applications;

Check here for the application chart: http://www.ballisticparts.com/tech/b...pplication.php



Buy them here: http://shop.testsycl.com/Motorcycle-Batteries_c2.htm

[Brad S.]

Thanks! Just placed an order

[garrett]

I installed one in my DRZ lastspring and used it all summer with no troubles. It installs fairly easily in the existng battery box and is quite a bit lighter than the stock battery. It always made good power, even after a few cool nights when I did the tour of Idaho in September. I bought one for my CB350 project as well, as it's a lot smaller than the stock battery and hides really easily. The bike sat for some time during rides and I never felt the battery lost any charge and it always turned the engine over easily.

I'm happy with the purchase and service.

Garrett

[Brad S.]

Got my Ballastic one installed in my F650 a few days ago.

Its awesome! Bike starts up so much better than before, and the battery is so much lighter.

Thanks!

I'll be putting one of these in all my bikes as they need them.

[BogeyMan]

Just placed an order for my Husaberg FE 570. thanks for supporting ADVRider - used the discount code mentioned above. I went for the 8-cell ballistic as insurance, since unlike the KTM's there's no kick starter as a backup on my bike.

[Samurai]

Ordered an 8 cell for the KLX 650. No kick starter so it needs all the insurance it can get! Thanks for the discount.

[DDT Rider]

Originally Posted by herrhelmet

I'm getting new inventory on Ballistic batteries so these need to go.

We have an unlimited $10 coupon code: BARSTOW, but the sale prices below are good until Thanksgiving day...

The Sycl 4.6Ah battery is on sale for $129.99 + $10 Off ADV rider coupon code:

BARSTOW

So you end up paying only $119.99

These batteries are perfect for custom builds and 4 stroke bikes up to 650cc.



The Ballistic EVO2 8 Cell ON SALE FOR $139.99

(Lowest price anywhere with an additional $10 Off ADV rider coupon code: BARSTOW)

So you end up paying only $129.99

The Ballistic EVO2 8 Cell uses the same A123 Cells (not knockoffs or remanufactured) is in a water/heat resistant case and offers conventionally places hi-quality brass terminals. No need for quick-disconnects. Because of better contact between battery terminals and the cells they offer slightly better cranking power too.These are our workhorse batteries for many, many applications;

Check here for the application chart: http://www.ballisticparts.com/tech/b...pplication.php

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Buy them here: http://shop.testsycl.com/Motorcycle-Batteries_c2.htm

How about the 12-cell battery...any sale on that one...?