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Old 08-21-2011, 05:32 PM   #24031
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Awesome! Great pics and I'm glad you made it back safely!

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Old 08-21-2011, 05:38 PM   #24032
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Finally got around to making a video of my Single Track backyard area.
Buckman, Santa Fe, NM
Sweet looking single track. No mud, no rocks.
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Old 08-21-2011, 06:36 PM   #24033
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:53 PM   #24034
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Now thats what I call REAL RACING!! Way to go Machtig
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Old 08-21-2011, 08:24 PM   #24035
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I wasnt fast (it took me 20hrs), but I did finish. I had two high speed crashes in the race...
Way to go! Finishing a race like that is HUGE. 20 hours, ironman...I'm impressed. You're right, sweet photos. Thanks for posting, now rest and heal
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:53 AM   #24036
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Luggage

Just wondering the best wolfman luggage setup for the wr250x. Looking for opinions between two setups:

1. Wolfman Luggage Racks with wolfman dry saddle bags and dry duffle with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the side or rear.
2. Wolfman Mini Beta Plus and Beta Duffle (adding rain covers) with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the rear.

Rides will include both riding to a location, setting up camp and doing day trips out coming back to camp while others will include rides where I set up camp only for the night and then pack up and move on.

Any suggestions on either of these set ups before I pull the trigger?
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:19 AM   #24037
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Just wondering the best wolfman luggage setup for the wr250x. Looking for opinions between two setups. Any suggestions on either of these set ups before I pull the trigger?
Both systems are good. Its a small bike, so the heavier the load, the more impact it will have on handling.

Pack lighter....travel farther. You can get by on half of what you think, but it takes practice. Lots of pracice.

Choose the system that helps makes you do that. And then, you'll enjoy the ride a lot better.

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Old 08-22-2011, 06:35 AM   #24038
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Just wondering the best wolfman luggage setup for the wr250x. Looking for opinions between two setups:

1. Wolfman Luggage Racks with wolfman dry saddle bags and dry duffle with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the side or rear.
2. Wolfman Mini Beta Plus and Beta Duffle (adding rain covers) with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the rear.

Rides will include both riding to a location, setting up camp and doing day trips out coming back to camp while others will include rides where I set up camp only for the night and then pack up and move on.

Any suggestions on either of these set ups before I pull the trigger?
I have the Wolfman Side racks, with a Rotopax mounted on the left rack. With this setup I'm able to mount the Wolfman dry bags and a Coyote bag on top of the bags....

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Old 08-22-2011, 06:37 AM   #24039
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Just wondering the best wolfman luggage setup for the wr250x. Looking for opinions between two setups:

1. Wolfman Luggage Racks with wolfman dry saddle bags and dry duffle with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the side or rear.
2. Wolfman Mini Beta Plus and Beta Duffle (adding rain covers) with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the rear.

Rides will include both riding to a location, setting up camp and doing day trips out coming back to camp while others will include rides where I set up camp only for the night and then pack up and move on.

Any suggestions on either of these set ups before I pull the trigger?
I'm sure both those systems will work well, but I have another option you may wish to condider - Giant Loop Coyote.

I've been using this system since I bought the WR-R new in February 2010 and have been very satisified with it. No additional racks needed and it holds my camping stuff well (I do pack lighter and have bought gear designed to be light and most importantly pack small).

I've done several 1,000-1,500-mile multi-day trips with this setup. The weight distribution on the GL system is ideal IMO, keeping all the weight just ahead of the rear axle. Even loaded for a long trip it still handles well and nothing sticks out wider than your legs on the sides.

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Old 08-22-2011, 06:58 AM   #24040
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Pix of my GL system on bike...



This was for a 5-day, 4-night, DS trip earlier this summer. All the heavy stuff - including tools, tubes, etc. is in the bottom wings of the GL. Behind and above the GL in the Wolfman Tail Bag the heaviest item is the Kermit chair @ 5 pounds. Lighter items like clothes, water filter, dry camp food, etc. are in the tail bag.

That's my rainsuit in the orange compression bag. It would actually fit inside the GL but I keep it handy on top to be easier to get at for summer showers. The total weight behind the GL, including the weight of the tail bag and Kermit, is less than 15 pounds. Total weight of all camping gear, including the GL and tail bag, is under 35-40 pounds depending on if I have water onboard or no water with plans to filter from a creek, etc.

To me, the GL vs. a system that requires an additional steel (read more weight) racks allows me to take more stuff - like my beloved Kermit chair - without compromising handling. BTW, I also had a remote preload adjuster added to the rear shock so it's a quick change from regular to camping settings.

Hope this helps.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:01 AM   #24041
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Both systems are good. Its a small bike, so the heavier the load, the more impact it will have on handling.

Pack lighter....travel farther. You can get by on half of what you think, but it takes practice. Lots of pracice.

Choose the system that helps makes you do that. And then, you'll enjoy the ride a lot better.

HF
The Beta bag just seems easy and simple. That's why I'm drawn to it. What setup do you use?
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:09 AM   #24042
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I have the Wolfman Side racks, with a Rotopax mounted on the left rack. With this setup I'm able to mount the Wolfman dry bags and a Coyote bag on top of the bags....

I was always planning on doing this exact setup. Mostly because I was inspired by BigDog. After going on a hiking/camping trip this summer where we lived out of dry bags I realized after it was to late that anything that can puncture something like tools, tent stakes, bottom metal edges of an Off if not wrapped up in something soft will tear up a rubber dry bag quick. Since that trip I starting to rethink the dry saddle bags for longevity reasons. Do you find that to be true at all?
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:13 AM   #24043
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I'm sure both those systems will work well, but I have another option you may wish to condider - Giant Loop Coyote.

I've been using this system since I bought the WR-R new in February 2010 and have been very satisified with it. No additional racks needed and it holds my camping stuff well (I do pack lighter and have bought gear designed to be light and most importantly pack small).

I've done several 1,000-1,500-mile multi-day trips with this setup. The weight distribution on the GL system is ideal IMO, keeping all the weight just ahead of the rear axle. Even loaded for a long trip it still handles well and nothing sticks out wider than your legs on the sides.

My 2. YRMV.
I haven't seen those bags. Thanks for bringing them up. Where is the best place to look at buying it? I'm trying to get a setup that works well with this bike since it is smaller. That seems like it would as well.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:30 AM   #24044
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I haven't seen those bags. Thanks for bringing them up. Where is the best place to look at buying it? I'm trying to get a setup that works well with this bike since it is smaller. That seems like it would as well.
I bought directly from GL here.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:32 AM   #24045
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If I ever decide to change my current setup, I'll probably get a Beta bag myself. Not sure if mini or the regular size. My only concern with having one big bag vs. smaller pockets for everything is what happens when things get wet and/or stinky...

I've tried a bunch of different setups over the years and I think I'm pretty happy with what I have now. Started with Dirtbagz Scouts (smaller size) alone for a weekend trip, too small.


Then added the Wolfman enduro duffel, strapped my sleeping pad to it, and ran a 2gal rotopax under the left dirtbag for my TAT trip. Too much bulk, too much weight, so I spent a lot of the next year minimizing. Still, it worked great for 6600 miles.


Sold the rack, sold the dirtbagz. Bought a Kriega US20 and wolfman enduro saddle bags (original style) with two MSR fuel bottles. In the right direction, couldn't fit much in the way of clothes and with my tent stuffed inside my tail bag, what to do when it rained?.


So I sold the kriega and decided to make due to the Wolfman Enduro duffel and saddle bags. I added a seatosummit large event compression stuff sack for my clothes. Worked great for 6000+ miles this spring and without the stuff sack was great for overnight trips, but I'm again looking to fiddle.


I'll probably keep the setup I have now (enduro bags) for short overnight or weekend trips, and maybe ideally get a locking hard top box for long adventures. FWIW the enduro saddle bags and tail duffel have a slight edge in capacity on the GL Coyote I think and are less intrusive to the rider imo, plus I like having compartments. And it costs half as much.

It really depends on how and where you travel and how tied to the bike you're going to be. Setting up a base camp is a lot different than traveling every day on unimproved roads or bopping from town to town on back roads for 3 weeks. The longer you stay in civilization the more clothing and ideally more security from hard bags you'll need. The further away from people you get, the more you need stuff that packs light and fast to get back to the action. It sucks walking around a town and eating lunch in a nice diner when you can't see your bike and are worried about your gear constantly. I will say the bike rode and handled the best with just the saddle bags but acts much better in the wind with just a tail bag or small saddle bags like the enduro's. Who knows, I'll probably end up with the happy trails panniers next as I've tried most everything else...

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