Yamaha WR250R Mega Thread

[skierd]

If I ever decide to change my current setup, I'll probably get a Beta bag myself. Not sure if mini or the regular size. My only concern with having one big bag vs. smaller pockets for everything is what happens when things get wet and/or stinky...

I've tried a bunch of different setups over the years and I think I'm pretty happy with what I have now. Started with Dirtbagz Scouts (smaller size) alone for a weekend trip, too small.


Then added the Wolfman enduro duffel, strapped my sleeping pad to it, and ran a 2gal rotopax under the left dirtbag for my TAT trip. Too much bulk, too much weight, so I spent a lot of the next year minimizing. Still, it worked great for 6600 miles.


Sold the rack, sold the dirtbagz. Bought a Kriega US20 and wolfman enduro saddle bags (original style) with two MSR fuel bottles. In the right direction, couldn't fit much in the way of clothes and with my tent stuffed inside my tail bag, what to do when it rained?.


So I sold the kriega and decided to make due to the Wolfman Enduro duffel and saddle bags. I added a seatosummit large event compression stuff sack for my clothes. Worked great for 6000+ miles this spring and without the stuff sack was great for overnight trips, but I'm again looking to fiddle.


I'll probably keep the setup I have now (enduro bags) for short overnight or weekend trips, and maybe ideally get a locking hard top box for long adventures. FWIW the enduro saddle bags and tail duffel have a slight edge in capacity on the GL Coyote I think and are less intrusive to the rider imo, plus I like having compartments. And it costs half as much.

It really depends on how and where you travel and how tied to the bike you're going to be. Setting up a base camp is a lot different than traveling every day on unimproved roads or bopping from town to town on back roads for 3 weeks. The longer you stay in civilization the more clothing and ideally more security from hard bags you'll need. The further away from people you get, the more you need stuff that packs light and fast to get back to the action. It sucks walking around a town and eating lunch in a nice diner when you can't see your bike and are worried about your gear constantly. I will say the bike rode and handled the best with just the saddle bags but acts much better in the wind with just a tail bag or small saddle bags like the enduro's. Who knows, I'll probably end up with the happy trails panniers next as I've tried most everything else...

Just one more, because I like remembering it...

[skierd]

Damnit, now I really want to go on a trip again.

[SteveO]

Originally Posted by jtmajors

I was always planning on doing this exact setup. Mostly because I was inspired by BigDog. After going on a hiking/camping trip this summer where we lived out of dry bags I realized after it was to late that anything that can puncture something like tools, tent stakes, bottom metal edges of an Off if not wrapped up in something soft will tear up a rubber dry bag quick. Since that trip I starting to rethink the dry saddle bags for longevity reasons. Do you find that to be true at all?

I have not found this to be the case. Of course I take precautions in protecting such items and limiting them to hard cases so that nothing sharp is sticking into the rubber casing. Its pretty tough material.

[skierd]

Originally Posted by jtmajors

Just wondering the best wolfman luggage setup for the wr250x. Looking for opinions between two setups:

1. Wolfman Luggage Racks with wolfman dry saddle bags and dry duffle with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the side or rear.
2. Wolfman Mini Beta Plus and Beta Duffle (adding rain covers) with 1 or 2 gallon rotopax mounted to the rear.

Rides will include both riding to a location, setting up camp and doing day trips out coming back to camp while others will include rides where I set up camp only for the night and then pack up and move on.

Any suggestions on either of these set ups before I pull the trigger?

To answer the question more, on what *I* would do.

For rides where I set up base camp, I'd want the beta bags. Get to camp, ditch the heavy crap, go ride.

For rides where I'm moving camp daily or just traveling, I'd get the saddle bags OR the beta bags, both will work equally well depending on how you like to pack.

[SteveO]

I did a ride not too long ago in which I took quite a few things with me.

Coyote GL, Wolfman saddle bags and tank bag, Rotopax, and two more dry bags strapped to the Coyote GL......

Everything strapped on very well and was fairly accessible.

I think it really depends on what you intend on doing. For me, this setup works very well and i'm able to bring what I want to bring, including an electric guitar......

of course I would not be doing single track with this kind of setup, but for getting to a destination and seeing the country, its a great setup....

[HardWorkingDog]

Originally Posted by jtmajors

I was always planning on doing this exact setup. Mostly because I was inspired by BigDog. After going on a hiking/camping trip this summer where we lived out of dry bags I realized after it was to late that anything that can puncture something like tools, tent stakes, bottom metal edges of an Off if not wrapped up in something soft will tear up a rubber dry bag quick. Since that trip I starting to rethink the dry saddle bags for longevity reasons. Do you find that to be true at all?

Yes, but I don't think that is unique to the dry bag. I've managed to rub a hole through cordura nylon in less than 100 miles (White Rim trail, socket handle) and thought I'd learned my lesson. When I got my Dry Duffel I wanted to be sure it would hold up and thought I'd kept hard stuff away from the edges, but the celebratory bottle of Fat Tire worked its way down and rubbed a hole between the bottom of the bag and the rear rack on the first day. Took 200 miles this time.

Wolfman sells a nice patch kit.

Again, it's an issue with all soft luggage, dry bag or not. IMO.

[jtmajors]

Originally Posted by skierd

With that setup where is your extra gas since you don't have a bigger tank. I don't either and don't really want one. Your pictures were really helpful. Thank you! Also, what are those pole things hanging on your bike?

[reddirtjoe]

Well Crap!!
http://www.ktm.com/us/enduro/350-exc...ighlights.html

[SteveO]

Whoa, this is a really nice setup.....maybe I should be going orange...

350 EXC-F: 350 EXC-F 2012





New for 2012:

• New DOHC EFI engine tuned for enduro riding
• New longer cylinder and new piston with reduced dome height and lighter weight reducing the compression ratio to 12.3 while outputting smooth enduro engine characteristics
• New camshafts for improved low-end torque
• 4 ultra-light titanium valves, new spring retainers and seating washers that allow this bike to peak at 12,000 RPMs
• New crank shaft with heavier crank webs to provide more inertia for smoother power deliver and better traction
• New counter balancer shaft with efficient reduction of vibrations
• Newly developed lightweight single diaphragm spring clutch unit with steel billet basket for unbeatable reliability
• 6-speed enduro gearbox for precise shifting
• New electric start system (plus kick start) and stronger 196W stator
• Completely new frame design with PDS that reduces longitudinal stiffness
• New one-piece cast aluminium swingarm with excellent flex characteristics
• New WP PDS mono shock (7mm longer) with new preload adjuster
• WP 48mm USD forks received new oil and dust seals by SKF and new bushings with improved Teflon coating for better sensitivity and durability
• New silencer and larger volume spark arrestor for lower noise level
• New 2.51 gallon/ 9.5 liter translucent fuel tank with integrated fuel pump and regulator
• Equipped with DOT approved headlight, taillight and turn signal indicators
• Newly designed taillight and license plate holder with improved durability
• New intake boot that provides great power and extra protection for Twin-Air filter which still has the same quick change, no-tools access air filter change process
• New bodywork including a white airbox, white rear number plates, and a redesigned reinforced rear fender for perfect ergonomics and excellent contact points
• New handguard mount and flag design
• New black Giant rims with CNC machined hubs, black spokes and silver spoke nipples
• New integrated routing for the cooling system for better airflow
• Metzler Six Days Extreme DOT front and rear tires

TECHNICAL DETAILS

Engine
Engine type	Single cylinder, 4-stroke
Displacement	349.7 cc
Bore/stroke	88/57.5 mm
Compression ratio	12,3:1
Starter/battery	Kick- and electric starter / 12V 4Ah
Transmission	6 gears
Carburetor	Keihin EFI, flow restrictor 42 mm
Control	4 V / DOHC with finger followers
Lubrication	Pressure lubrication with 2 oil pumps
Gear ratios	14:32 16:26 20:25 22:23 25:22 26:20
Primary ratio	24:73
Final drive	14:52 (13:52)
Cooling	Liquid cooling
Clutch	Wet multi-disc clutch, Brembo hydraulics
Ignition	Keihin EMS
Chassis
Frame	Central double-cradle-type 25CrMo4
Subframe	Aluminium
Handlebar	Neken, Aluminium Ø 28/22 mm
Front suspension	WP-USD Ø 48 mm
Rear suspension	WP-PDS shock absorber
Suspension travel front/rear	300/335 mm
Front/rear brakes	Disc brake Ø 260/220 mm
Front/rear rims	1.60 x 21''; 2.15 x 18'' Excel
Front/rear tires	90/90-21"; 140/80-18"
Chain	X-Ring 5/8 x 1/4"
Silencer	Aluminium
Steering head angle	63.5°
Wheel base	1,482±10 mm
Ground clearance	345 mm
Seat height	970 mm
Tank capacity, approx.	9.5 l
Weight, without fuel, approx.	107.5 kg

[GSBS]

Originally Posted by reddirtjoe

Well Crap!!
http://www.ktm.com/us/enduro/350-exc...ighlights.html

Sw-weeet! And 237 pounds dry!

[reddirtjoe]

It is adding to my confusion!!!!


other then the $ 40.245 per pound stuff

[jtmajors]

Originally Posted by GSBS

Sw-weeet! And 237 pounds dry!

On the outside a KTM is sexy. It's like that drop dead gorgeous girl you meet for the first time, however spend a little time with her and you discover she's really a prostitute with a lot of issues and baggage waiting to give you vd and take all your money. No thanks! For now I'm sticking with old faithful. Haha!

[SteveO]

Originally Posted by jtmajors

On the outside a KTM is sexy. It's like that drop dead gorgeous girl you meet for the first time. Spend a little time with her and you discover she's really a prostitute with a lot of issues and baggage waiting to give you vd and take all your money.

too funny....

[AZ TOM]

You left out one small detail on the KTM, price?

[SteveO]

I haven't been able to find a price on this model. But, I guessing about $8k....