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08-24-2011, 08:51 AM
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6 x 275cc
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Fairfax Station VA
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I'm thinking of perhaps getting this with the bead breaker and just using spoons since all my tires are tubed. Anyone had any experience with this unit?
http://www.mikesracingproducts.com/mrp_web_site_002.htm
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08-24-2011, 10:20 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Kennewick Washington
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08-24-2011, 11:29 AM
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FunHog
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Blount Springs, AL
Oddometer: 3,474
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Fwiw...
I've been using the HF changers since 2005 (first one was lost when my house burned in 2007; bought another one a few months after the fire). In all, between my neighbor and other riding buddies we've changed close to 200 tires on the two machines. IMO for the price they cannot be beat.
Yes, they do require some mods. The bar that comes with them is only good for leverage on the bead breaker. I bought the No-Mar bar with the first machine, but got the Mojo Lever (a copy of the Coats bar I think) for the one I have now. The Mojo is much better IMO. Never a pinched tube or scratched rim. The other main mod I"ve added is three nylon do-hickeys that replace the stock steel mounting points (also to protect rims). These I got from the Mojo guy (don't remember his name right now, sorry). I think I bought the HF machine on sale the last time and it was a total of about $50 with the motorcycle adapter. The Mojo lever was around $100 and the replacement nylon wheel mounts were about $15 (I think). I also bought the Marc Parnes static wheel balancer for around $100. So, in all, I"ve got around $270 in the entire tire-changing/balancing setup. It paid for itself about the second time we used it! My neighbor and I both have 950 KTMs ("Kills Tires Monthly") and we each have other DS bikes that seem to go through tires like a dose of salts thru a widow-woman, so the machine seldom is idle more than a week or two. Plus, several other riding buddies also come by at tire-change time. If I had plenty of money to spend I could justify paying for a nicer machine with the number of tires we do, but the old HF machine works just fine and I know its ins and outs. Maybe if I can ever break it...
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08-24-2011, 12:21 PM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Durango, Colorado, USA
Oddometer: 9,368
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08-24-2011, 03:18 PM
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Eatin' Dirt Since 1982
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: SLC, UT
Oddometer: 1,467
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08-26-2011, 02:24 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: ATL, GA
Oddometer: 367
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the nomar is easy to change any street tires and it's very simple once you learn how it works. I've got the 2" receiver hitch mount and it's great but I"m about to sell my jeep w/ the receiver so I'll have to get one of their floor mounts. For storage now I just slide it under the bikes when they are parked. pretty easy to move around but it's heavy picking it up to put in the receiver. |
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08-26-2011, 08:48 PM
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Adventurer
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Whitecourt, Alberta, Canada
Oddometer: 42
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I strongly looked at the Nomar/Cycle Hill. And settled on the Bitech Machine changer. It has all of the same quality parts as the Bitech, however the bead breaker is multi postion, meaning you can have it mounted on the pedistal and use the tire changer to break the bead (Like on the Nomar), or move it to the base and use the floor to brake the bead. There are different base height options, the standard unit it trailor hitch comaptible (No base needed). The rim clamps and bead breaker, as well as the mount/dismount bar are non marking.
The clamps work on any rim style, all off the bushings are brass and greasable, and you can even talk to the guy that made your changer if you have any questions or need replacement parts. Just another option for you to consider - I'm very happy with mine. I have used it for multiple motorcycle tires, ATV tires, and dirtbike tires. http://www.thefoat.com/?sg=v.video&video_id=367 |
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08-27-2011, 11:08 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Oddometer: 1,572
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the HF with mojo lever/blocks works for me.
the only problem is with the beak breaker's lower triangle block. they will scratch my wheel. I've cut up oil bottles to shield the wheel but sometime they fall off. what do you guys with the HF do to prevent that?
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08-27-2011, 01:00 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Rough Rider Country...Bismarck ND
Oddometer: 1,036
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slowinfastout..
Love my CH, well worth the money, the only time i use the tire irons is installing the front tire on my wheels. The bead breaker is no big deal, most of the time i can get the fronts to break with my hands. Scott.
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08-27-2011, 04:05 PM
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In a parallel world
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: South Coast, CA
Oddometer: 800
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No-Mar Rocks!
Love the No-Mar.
A few friends and I went in on one and we've never looked back. Bought the trailer hitch model and one guy bolted a receiver to the frame of his garage door as a mount. Works like a charm and their tools are good, too. Not sure if it's made plain on their web site, but they will replace the non-marring tips of several of their tools for free.
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08-28-2011, 09:35 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Memphis, Tn.
Oddometer: 1,040
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I was all set up to buy a no mar but after calling and talking to them they suggested the Blue Cycle Hill changer. They said the hardest tires to still would be the touring bike tires. Well last week I installed a new set of tires on my HD and used the machine for the first time. The first tire took about 30 minutes but the second was literally a three minute deal. I'm very pleased with my machine. I did opt for the platform for it to mount to a stand. When using it you drive your truck/car tire over it to stabilize the machine.
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08-28-2011, 07:03 PM
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6 x 275cc
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Fairfax Station VA
Oddometer: 1,409
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Good Thread! I decided today to get my two spoons and install TKC 80s on my 990 adventure the old school way...on the floor with some soap and water, spoons and wrasslin'. What a disaster. Banged up my black front rim (that black finish comes off REALLY easy when spoons hit it) and couldn't get the bead to release on the rear tire. Tried the 2x4 trick under the pickup truck and was able to get one side to go, but not the flip side. Screw that...decided to quit for the day and park the rear wheel until I get the No Mar changer. Ordering one tonight.
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08-28-2011, 07:36 PM
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Granpa Hoon
Joined: Feb 2004
Location: Copperhill, Tennessee
Oddometer: 2,658
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My NoMar with the commercial arm for breaking tires that are extremely tough to pop the bead.
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08-28-2011, 09:58 PM
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6 x 275cc
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Fairfax Station VA
Oddometer: 1,409
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Decided on the No Mar Jr Pro. More than I wanted to spend, but the comments here convinced me it was worth the extra coin. Plus, I can sell it really-really easy on the Flea Market one day!
The advice has been invaluable. Thanks guys.
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08-29-2011, 09:43 AM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Durango, Colorado, USA
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