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Old 09-25-2011, 07:58 PM   #4561
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I though we (gringos) were supposed to say it with a gringo accent.

How do you say "Nicaragua"? (nee-cow-RRRAH-gwah)
I always thought it was "knicker ag you ah".
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:11 PM   #4562
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I always thought it was "knicker ag you ah".
Only along the coast.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:26 PM   #4563
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Be careful using them colors, tricepilot don't like it!
Funny, there's been a couple of major university studies on MSM that both found no conservative news sources to exist at all and only 2 "moderate" sources: Fox News and Drudge Report.

I think Don Henley summed it up pretty well.

"I make my living off the Evening News
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry
Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough love
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that Crap is King
Give us dirty laundry!"
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:30 PM   #4564
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I though we (gringos) were supposed to say it with a gringo accent.

How do you say "Nicaragua"? (nee-cow-RRRAH-gwah)
The bigger problem with you gringos is that all of you look alike.
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:38 PM   #4565
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the bigger problem with you gringos is that all of you look alike.
lol!!
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:17 PM   #4566
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I think Fox is by far the most fair and balanced new available. But, I am not talking about the Talk Show formats, that is not news. I do agree that Mexico gets more than its fair share of news coverage and I believe it is politically motivated, but not for the same reason as you. Have you noticed how little coverage is now given to our troops being killed since the White House changed? It is my opinion that the left wing media used troop killing to bash Bush and the war effort, now that Obama is President, troops deaths are given a glossing over and they move on. I think Mexico has been used to fill this void. But of course, the Drug Cartels and the police/politician corruption in Mexico is providing much material. But again, notice how much media is now given when one of our guys gets killed. Before, they almost continued re-reporting one death till the next one happened. There is one other factor and it is not the fault of the media. As Tricepilot already stated, we like to hear about blood and gore!

Amigo, I don't want to go political, and I disagree about certain networks being "fair and balanced."

With that said, the cartels do these increasingly crazy murders in an effort to get attention, and the non-Mexican media fall for it hook, line and sinker.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:23 AM   #4567
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[QUOTE=tricepilot;16933911]The only American media tactic is: Their Own Interests.

When the subject is The Media remember the catch phrase "Drama Sells"....a la the very famous "If it bleeds, it leads"

Yeap tickets are sold out here

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Old 09-26-2011, 04:53 AM   #4568
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Cartel violence has replaced the bus plunge and ferry flip as a good lead on a slow day.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:24 AM   #4569
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Amigo, I don't want to go political, and I disagree about certain networks being "fair and balanced."

With that said, the cartels do these increasingly crazy murders in an effort to get attention, and the non-Mexican media fall for it hook, line and sinker.
Unfortunately, the words you used "increasingly crazy murders" are true and they have people like me, who love Mexico and her people, re-thinking about travel in Mexico. We can probably all agree that Mexico gets too much attention from the media, but if we are open minded, we can also all see exactly what you pointed out.

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Cartel violence has replaced the bus plunge and ferry flip as a good lead on a slow day.
Very true. Did you see the news about the lady in Nuevo Laredo being be-headed?
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:44 AM   #4570
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Yeap tickets are sold out here
Was that at Plaza de Toros de Las Ventas in Madrid?
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:52 AM   #4571
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Here's a thought; Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan are old news that we're tired of; Mexico, relatively speaking is new news, is closer, and more relateable for most Americans. Sooo, lets lead with a story about Mexico.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:03 AM   #4572
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Surprised this hasn't got more traction here
No update on the tread but looking forward to hearing more about this. BTW, where the heck is Corral?
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:13 AM   #4573
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Unfortunately, the words you used "increasingly crazy murders" are true and they have people like me, who love Mexico and her people, re-thinking about travel in Mexico. We can probably all agree that Mexico gets too much attention from the media, but if we are open minded, we can also all see exactly what you pointed out.
Some food for thought:

During the weekend before the body dump in Boca del Rio there were 67 homicides reported in NY City. 67 vs. 35. And the 35 deaths in BdR were likely single-cause homicides involving 2 criminal orgs.

Now I don't have specific knowledge of the deaths in NY City other than they were not a single incident. Therefore the diversity of individuals involved, of causes and locales make it potentially much harder to identify the risks and avoid them compared to the drug violence in Mexico.

Just my dos centavos.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:37 AM   #4574
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Here's a thought; Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan are old news that we're tired of; Mexico, relatively speaking is new news, is closer, and more relateable for most Americans. Sooo, lets lead with a story about Mexico.
Well the countries you've listed are at the mooment rather quiet compared to Mexico. Mexico's war is creating more casualties than anywhere else. I can't think of any other country at the moment that has truckloads of tortured dead people being dumped on the freeway, men and women, or another country that has internet users being executed and beheaded for posting on the internet. Mexico is number one right now because it has the most active war with the most casualties. I'm continually surprised at the "poor picked on Mexico" attitude on this thread, you aren't being picked on, you're earning the attention by having the sickest crazy war violence currently on the planet. Maybe you'll get lucky and the Israel/Palestine thing will heat up, or the Taliban will do something, until then Mexico is Numero Uno. Not because everyone hates you, but because Mexico is currently the most violent place with the most sick crazy stuff going on, that's boys and girls is news........And yeah, since Mexico borders the U.S., it's a huge American tourist destination, lots of U.S. companies are there and we are connected by the drug trade, uh yeah, it might make the news due to those factors too.

In reality, when I watch my nightly news I rarely hear anything about Mexico, but everyday I get news from Mexican sources on the interent about the daily violence that is never reported here on TV. I'd say it''s under reported.

I'm sure this will generate some flames from the usual suspects, but the truth is the truth, at least I'm not posting from inside Mexico, that could be fatal at the moment.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:55 AM   #4575
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Some food for thought:

During the weekend before the body dump in Cabo del Rio there were 67 homicides reported in NY City. 67 vs. 35. And the 35 deaths in CdR were likely single-cause homicides involving 2 criminal orgs.

Now I don't have specific knowledge of the deaths in NY City other than they were not a single incident. Therefore the diversity of individuals involved, of causes and locales make it potentially much harder to identify the risks and avoid them compared to the drug violence in Mexico.

Just my dos centavos.
New York Times reports:

Police data shows that 52 shootings from Friday through Monday claimed 67 victims around the city, resulting in 13 deaths, in a spike of gunplay that has alarmed the Bloomberg administration even though the number of citywide shootings this year, through Sunday, is down 2 percent compared with the same period in 2010.
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