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Old 10-02-2011, 10:42 AM   #106
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Easternbeaver has a full kit with the PC-8 fuse panel, relay and "mains" fuse. This fuse goes in the main feed wire and must be installed close to the battery to protect the high current wire. Like all of Jim's Easternbeaver stuff, the PC-8 is top notch quality. We particularly like the post and nut mains connections on the PC-8. You never have to worry about power loss due to loose mains connections.

Another option is the Fuzeblocks FZ-1. http://www.fuzeblocks.com/index.php

The fuse panel is about the same size as the PC-8 but has the relay built in. You still need a mains fuse in the feed wire which is not supplied but fuse holders are readily available at autopart stores.
The FZ-1 has a slick fuse setup that allows you to choose whether a circuit is direct wired or switched just by moving the fuse from one position to another. There are three rows of fuse sockets. Put a fuse between the center row and the left and it's direct (they call it constant); or between the center row and the right and it's switched.

Another nice feature is built in diodes to protect the bikes electronics from transient voltage spikes. This is particularly important on CanBus systems.

One thing we don't like about the FZ-1 is that the relay is soldered in. This is good news bad news. The good news is that it makes for a robust connection and low profile. The bad news is that is has to be de-soldered to replace it if it fails; not something you can on the road. Automotive type relays are typically very reliable but nothing is perfect. There is a work-around if the relay fails out in the boonies. You can swap the fuses over to the direct side to get back to civilization but you have to remember to switch off any accessories that were changed over when you shut the bike down.

We just purchased an FZ-1 for our new 990 Adventure. We haven't installed it yet but we'll let you know how it works out.
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Old 10-02-2011, 06:32 PM   #107
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Thanks for the advice. I've been looking at the PC-8 from eastern beaver and the AP-1 from centech. Painless wiring has a fuse block like the FZ-1 that has a built in relay.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:11 PM   #108
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Just got a TAPP Lite in the mail

Just got my TAPP Lite in the mail today after ordering last Thursday. The ring terminals are soldered- I like that.

My bike is probably going up on the stand for the winter, so I'm going to leave it off as it might just sit 1000 hours and drain the battery. I'm going to look into that relay in the meantime- give me something to do as I stare out at the snow that's going to be falling before I know it.

Looking forward to not having to worry about finding a place to plug in and charge my phone. Thanks for a great product and the quick shipping.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:57 PM   #109
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Easternbeaver has a full kit with the PC-8 fuse panel, relay and "mains" fuse. This fuse goes in the main feed wire and must be installed close to the battery to protect the high current wire. Like all of Jim's Easternbeaver stuff, the PC-8 is top notch quality. We particularly like the post and nut mains connections on the PC-8. You never have to worry about power loss due to loose mains connections.

Another option is the Fuzeblocks FZ-1. http://www.fuzeblocks.com/index.php

The fuse panel is about the same size as the PC-8 but has the relay built in. You still need a mains fuse in the feed wire which is not supplied but fuse holders are readily available at autopart stores.
The FZ-1 has a slick fuse setup that allows you to choose whether a circuit is direct wired or switched just by moving the fuse from one position to another. There are three rows of fuse sockets. Put a fuse between the center row and the left and it's direct (they call it constant); or between the center row and the right and it's switched.

Another nice feature is built in diodes to protect the bikes electronics from transient voltage spikes. This is particularly important on CanBus systems.

One thing we don't like about the FZ-1 is that the relay is soldered in. This is good news bad news. The good news is that it makes for a robust connection and low profile. The bad news is that is has to be de-soldered to replace it if it fails; not something you can on the road. Automotive type relays are typically very reliable but nothing is perfect. There is a work-around if the relay fails out in the boonies. You can swap the fuses over to the direct side to get back to civilization but you have to remember to switch off any accessories that were changed over when you shut the bike down.

We just purchased an FZ-1 for our new 990 Adventure. We haven't installed it yet but we'll let you know how it works out.
How did it work out with your FZ-1?
We talked in Tahoe, I was parked in front of your booth with CJ's bike.

I'd still like to visit you guys if it's still ok. I'd like to run a few things through you (and get a few things from you)
Thanks!
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:58 PM   #110
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Thx El Profe - always good to hear that we're doing OK with parts and service.
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Bikyto -
We haven't had a chance to install the FZ-1 yet. We're builing up a pretty big pile of stuff for the KTM - (AKA the Purple Goose) so it's going slow. Just received a clutch cover and peg extensions from Craig. He sure does nice work.
The FZ-1 may get some mods before we install it. We have a tiny PIC based circuit that is programmed to keep high power accessories turned off until the engine gets up to 600RPM and the alternator is up to a respectable output. The plan was to use the trigger-out to switch the FZ-1 relay. However, our circuit switches the (-) side of the relay coil while the FZ-1 switches the (+) so it can be triggered from any switched source. I can't decide whether to hack the FZ-1 or go with the PC-8 and an external relay.
No problem with a get- together. We would welcome the opportunity to pick up where we left off at Tahoe with riding tips and the mods you made to your bike, especially your lights.
Things are a bit chaotic with us moving our assembly area (again!) but we can always clear some space and time. Just let us know what works for you.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:28 PM   #111
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Just realized I should have bought another USB cable with the TAPP CAPP. Looks like I'll be making another order.

Thanks again for the great product and the quick shipping.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:49 PM   #112
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Cool beans. You know where to find us
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:52 PM   #113
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:44 AM   #114
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RamMan - Yes, we went back to the drawing board to increase the power output significantly in an effort to make a unique product. Our electrical engineer finished assembling the first prototype PCBAs while we were at the Powersports Dealer Expo so they were ready for testing when we got home.

We're all trashed from long hours the working the show and traveling but we did get the first full load testing complete this afternoon. They run continuously at a full 3A. That's way beyond any USB device so we'll publish the specs at 2.2A or 2.5A for the iPAD users and still have plenty of margin. At some point we may look at a "Hydra-Cable" with more than one connector but we'll have to figure out how to make a weatherproof connection at each end without having it be a kluge.

We'll continue testing for a week or so with thermal profiling next on the test plan. When testing is complete we'll go out for pilot production build quotes and build. Bottom line, we should have product to market by mid-March.

I'll post some pics as soon as I get a chance.
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Hey Don,

I was wondering if you got the full-USB spec TAPP products in production. I'd like to upgrade from 1A to 3A so my DroidX charges better when in use.

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Old 02-08-2012, 04:21 PM   #115
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Bump for excellent products and outstanding customer service!

Thanks Don.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:43 PM   #116
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Hey Don,

I was wondering if you got the full-USB spec TAPP products in production. I'd like to upgrade from 1A to 3A so my DroidX charges better when in use.

David
Something tells me that they do... and that it's going to have additional design features. Looking good!
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:51 AM   #117
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Something tells me that they do... and that it's going to have additional design features. Looking good!
Yup, TAPP is back with a bunch of new features and 2.1A output for charging tablets such as the iPAD. We will formally introducing this week at Powersports Dealer Expo in Indianapolis.
We have been testing a batch of pilot production (PP) units and they are everything we were hoping for and more. Full scale production won't start until the end of March due to a couple of PCBA components that have very long lead times but we're working on trying to move that up a bit.
We stopped by Meat Popsicle's place and installed one of the PP TAPPs on his bike. As the first one in the field we're looking forward to hearing how it's working out.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:17 AM   #118
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Yup, TAPP is back with a bunch of new features and 2.1A output for charging tablets such as the iPAD. We will formally introducing this week at Powersports Dealer Expo in Indianapolis.
We have been testing a batch of pilot production (PP) units and they are everything we were hoping for and more. Full scale production won't start until the end of March due to a couple of PCBA components that have very long lead times but we're working on trying to move that up a bit.
We stopped by Meat Popsicle's place and installed one of the PP TAPPs on his bike. As the first one in the field we're looking forward to hearing how it's working out.
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Hey Don,

its worked great on the few short rides that I've been on, but I need a longer ride to test its performance keeping the phone charged while using the GPS functions for extended periods, which was my issue with the lower output model. I may just have to let the phone get low, and then hook it up while running the GPS and see how it does, because my next big ride is a ways off: the end of March when I finally get to explore Death Valley.

Thanks for supporting your products so well and continuing to improve them!
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:53 AM   #119
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TAPP 2.1A USB Power Port

Hi Dave,
Thanks for the update. Keep us posted as you get more time with it. Sure wish I had time to make the Death Valley run before we head out on the Road of Bones expedition but it looks as though we'll just have the bike together in time for some short shakedown runs and then ship it to London.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:38 AM   #120
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These products look great! I'm looking for a solution that would connect to my Centech fuse box and power 3 usb devices. A iPhone, GoPro HD Hero 2 and Chatterbox X1 slim. Could you build this? If so how much?
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