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Old 10-27-2011, 03:23 AM   #646
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I think you are all correct sort of

I thought that the upper part could be made really strong, while the lower part was the light bit rather than the heavy bit.

I thought the seals were a bit more prone to get crap in them but it had less effect because it could wash out rather than in but on the other hand they are right in the thick of it re stones and dust Still think the seals last longer on a "normal" fork though.

For whatever reason Honda seemed to decide on the USD fork approach.
The problem with USD seals is that when they fail they dump all the oil very quickly. The other way up, they still loose oil, but can take a couple of days to go dry and loose all the damping. It's also putting the slider down nearer to the dirt and rocks where it's more likely to be dinged as well.

Makes sense for racing bikes on or off road, or road bikes that aren't doing long distances. Probably the worst of the possible options for a long range dirt road capable bike.

Then again, a single sided swing arm on an off road bike seems pretty sub-optimal as well.

"Style over substance"

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Old 10-27-2011, 03:35 AM   #647
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Then again, a single sided swing arm on an off road bike seems pretty sub-optimal as well.

"Style over substance"

Pete
Always thought that set up was just to make it easy for race bikes to swap wheels in the days when it was a possibility.

I suppose it also makes it easier to change tires.

Whether it is the design or the execution that has been sub optimal, I don't know, but will be watching with interest.

Seems cars manage to keep things in tact with only one side attached and not many SS chain drives seem to go west that often, but they are rarely used in rough conditions. (So far)

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Old 10-27-2011, 05:45 AM   #648
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Agreed, way better looking bike IMO

Sharp angles look good...here's the comparsion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLpxQ...eature=related
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:44 AM   #649
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back to the Crosstourer

a new picture from the -now famous- petrol station has emerged. I like the way it looks from behind, narrow and sleek.
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:53 AM   #650
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A few more days and some pretty pics should emerge.
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:05 AM   #651
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The bike seems to be very small on that picture.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:13 AM   #652
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I know Honda has kept the doors tightly closed on this but has anyone read or heard anything about the US getting this bike?
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:27 PM   #653
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130 Bhp and 126 Nm Torque!!!
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:32 PM   #654
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:36 PM   #655
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:37 PM   #656
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Aw, geez. Did Honda learn nothing from the VFR1200?

I know it's a personal thing, but I think the photo shows an ugly bike.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:39 PM   #657
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:40 PM   #658
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Hope it's larger than a Super Tenere' Need something to replace the old R1150 GS Adventure.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:43 PM   #660
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Hope it's larger than a Super Tenere' Need something to replace the old R1150 GS Adventure.
Got the specs from the official German Honda website... I can read German, but I can't translate it in to English on2on...

Technical Data

Technische Daten

Motor


Liquid-cooled 4-stroke Unicam 16-valve 76° V4

Hubraum 1.237 cm3

Bohrung x Hub 81 x 60 mm

Verdichtung 12 : 1

Max. Leistung 95 kW/7.750 min-1 (95/1/EC)

Max. Drehmoment 126 Nm/6.500 min-1 (95/1/EC)



Kraftstoffsystem


Gemischaufbereitung PGM-FI electronic fuel injection

Drosselklappendurchmesser 44 mm

Luftfilter Oil-permeated, viscous-type paper filter

Tankinhalt 21,5 Liter

Fuel Consumption 16,1 km/Liter (WMTC mode** - D-mode: 16.7 km/l)



Elektrik


Zündsystem Computer-controlled digital transistorised with electronic advance

Zündzeitpunkt 8.4° BTDC (idle speed)

Zündkerze NGK: IMR8E-9HES - DENSO: VUH24ES

Starter Elektrostarter

Batterie 12 V

Scheinwerfer 55 W x 1 (abgeblendet)



Antrieb


Kupplung Wet multiplate (* Wet multiplate, hydraulic 2-clutch)

Kupplungsbetätigung * D mode/S mode/Manual mode

Getriebe 6-Gang

Primärübersetzung 1.738


Rahmen


Typ Diamond; aluminium twin-spar Chassis


Abmessungen (LxBxH) 2.285 x 915 x 1.335 mm

Radstand 1.595 mm

Lenkkopfwinkel 28 °

Nachlauf 107 mm

Wenderadius 2,7 m

Sitzhöhe 850 mm

Bodenfreiheit 180 mm

Gewicht vollgetankt 275 kg (V: 132 kg; H: 143 kg), DCT Version *285 kg (V: 138 kg; H: 147 kg)



Radaufhängung


Typ Vorn 43mm inverted telescopic forks with hydraulic damping, preload and rebound damping adjustment

Hinten Pro-Link with gas-charged damper, preload and stepless rebound damping adjustment


Räder


Typ Vorn Tube less spoked

Hinten Tube less spoked

Felgengrösse Vorn 19 x MT2,5

Hinten 17 x MT4

Reifengrösse Vorn 110/80-19 ()

Hinten 150/70-17 ()

Reifendruck Vorn 250 bar

Hinten 290 bar



Bremsen


Typ Vorn Dual 310mm disks, Combined ABS

Hinten Single 276mm disk, Combined ABS



All specifications are provisional and subject to change without notice.
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