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Old 01-22-2012, 01:04 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by zenjen View Post
I don't believe I have ever seen a red flag come out at the gate. Doesn't a red flag nullify the race in SX?


Looked up the rule on red flag restarts - If the red flag comes out with less than three laps completed by the leader the race is null and void.
Since i'm on the east coast, it was late last night, i worked all day, sick in the cold rain, and at 2:30am i was slightly more concerned about TC41 and R.Morais than the rule book...

I would have had to looked it up..AND,
I DIDNT(and haven't yet)get to SEE the race....(CBS east coast didn't show it)
to determine the circumstance of the 'red flag'...(timing and which lap)



I originally meant, if the red flag comes as the start is fouled, the riders weren't clean away from the gate(pileup on the start straight *indy lites'09 as one example, i remember a few SX rounds the same way...maybe in the early/mid 2000s...), or a gate malfunction.
sorry i wasn't more clear....especially if i'm more muddlesome now......LOL

Rule Review:
Race start of LA supercross rd#3 was NULL AND VOID.

There was a complete restart.




From the AMA supercross 2012 rulebook pdf online...

4.20 Red Flag Race Stops and Restart Procedures
a. Any race start or restart will be considered an official part of the
event even if the start or restart does not result in a lap being
completed by the leader. Therefore, any infractions will be
deemed valid and ruled upon accordingly.
b. In the case of a false start (gate malfunction), a race will be
restarted with the riders returning to their original starting
positions.
c. Riders who are not present at the starting gate for the original
start of a race are barred from any subsequent restarts.
d. Riders who are present at the gate but are unable to start due
to a stalled motorcycle may join the race from the starting area
at anytime during the race.
e. Riders who are unable to join the race by this procedure are
barred from any subsequent restarts.
4.21 Restarts
a. The race is stopped (with fewer than 3 laps completed by the
race leader / whether it be a Heat, Last Chance Qualifier or
Main Event)
1. A red flag will be displayed to the riders.
2. The race will be considered null and void.

AMA 2012 supercross rulebook PDF



The scoring holeshot goes to whomever pulled it on try #2.


Agree? flame my PM's if i knackered it up




If the race is red flagged after 3 laps, and the 'stagger restart' is used, the #1 attempt or first successful race start will be scored as the HS points -3pts.




Quote:
Originally Posted by shrineclown
Hah, so I got 13 or 10 depending on how learned our judge is.
How did i do? learnt? or edeot?


I was just bummed....the original race start, i was looking at MY picks going.....yeah! 20pts for the vc! YAY.......

and after the red flag, i was......nnnnnnnnoOOOOOOOOO.......my 3 pt's in rd#2 might be a season high!







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