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Old 11-06-2011, 04:10 AM   #121
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Two questions for you -

What gear do you use to stay warm/dry in such cold conditions?

Why did you decide to reduce to a 50cc Zoomer as judging by your pics most/all of your previous bikes were 125cc?


How many miles are on the zoomer now lol
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:51 AM   #122
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Thankīs for your comments Forde.

And about your questions(wich I count to three of them)

-I use motorcyclegear(goretex). Itīs cold to sit hours still on a moped and I have chrashed on motorcycles few times and it hurts also in low speeds.

-As you, I also love the small cc touring. I ride motorcycle about 35.000kms/year and the 125 and 50cc is something to do with "back to basic" feeling? Love to travell with motorcycle, but it feels to easy nowadays.....and the scenery is not the same on motorcycle.(more time to see on moped)

-Insurance is expensive for mopeds in Sweden. 500 euro/year. I have the Zoomer in traffic only when riding touring. In two years the bike has been in traffic only 18 days. On this days Iīve road 6.400kms(In miles I thinj itīs 4.000 miles)

The Z is now sold....and Iīm searching for a new one.
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:29 PM   #123
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Thankīs for your comments Forde.

And about your questions(wich I count to three of them)

-I use motorcyclegear(goretex). Itīs cold to sit hours still on a moped and I have chrashed on motorcycles few times and it hurts also in low speeds.

-As you, I also love the small cc touring. I ride motorcycle about 35.000kms/year and the 125 and 50cc is something to do with "back to basic" feeling? Love to travell with motorcycle, but it feels to easy nowadays.....and the scenery is not the same on motorcycle.(more time to see on moped)

-Insurance is expensive for mopeds in Sweden. 500 euro/year. I have the Zoomer in traffic only when riding touring. In two years the bike has been in traffic only 18 days. On this days Iīve road 6.400kms(In miles I thinj itīs 4.000 miles)

The Z is now sold....and Iīm searching for a new one.
500 euro a year OMG

i have a 100cc scooter and they added it to my insurance for my other bike for free, my fully comprehensive insurance policy on my 05 Kawasaki Z1000 costs Ģ230 GBP, i'm 23 years old.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:43 PM   #124
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Zoomer/Ruckus is a moped, often chrashed by young riders...thatīs why the insurance is what it is. My Honda Innova scoot 125 costs about 100-120 euro.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:06 AM   #125
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Here is a link to my 2 day ride in Andalusia in March 2010
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566255
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:24 PM   #126
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(nice trip rulis)

Well, I sold my Zoomer/Ruckus and was lookin for a new one for the next year. Zoomer is expensive in Sweden, price is about 3.000 euro.

Now, there are comming a new 50cc model to Sweden. The price is under 2.000 euro and you get 5 years warranty.
Has this model(called NSC50 or Vision in Sweden)been on market in other countries?

http://www.hondamc.com/homc/template...____19277.aspx


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Old 11-27-2011, 08:52 AM   #127
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Great reports!

Really enjoyed "going along" on your travels. Thank you!

Sure wish that cottages like the ones you rented were more widely available here in the States.
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:38 AM   #128
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Yeah, but you know how it is here.

By the time they got done installing all the things people demand and can't do without over here for their "rough camping" (A/C, hot showers, toilet, hot tub, internet access, etc., etc., etc.) you're back up to the price of a regular motel or hotel room.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:08 AM   #129
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Travelling on two wheels, donīt they use much tents and cottages in States?
If not, isnīt campingareas popular there?
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:19 AM   #130
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Now, there are comming a new 50cc model to Sweden. The price is under 2.000 euro and you get 5 years warranty.
Has this model(called NSC50 or Vision in Sweden)been on market in other countries?

In the UK the Zoomer 50cc (Ruckus in USA) and the Lead 110cc (called the Beat 110 in some other countries) were discontinued at the end of 2011 and have been replaced with the Vision 50 and Vision 110. I think they are the same engines, just a new body/style.

Vision 50cc http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/scooters/#!/vision50/ Ģ1650 GBP

Are you not interested in the 110cc version for long trips or is it not available in Sweden?

Vision 110cc http://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/scooters/#!/vision110/ Ģ1800 GBP

I would get the 110cc, it only costs Ģ150 more and only does 5 mpg less. 50cc - 146.9 mpg, 110cc - 141.8 mpg quoted on honda's site

Do you get a new scoot every year?
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:23 AM   #131
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found the 110cc on the link you posted,

http://www.hondamc.com/homc/template...____18875.aspx

You cant get the S-Wing 125, Ps125i, or SH125i?

But you can still get the Zoomer :/
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:27 AM   #132
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Thank you for your input Forde!

Things has sorted out already, yesterday.

I saw the Vision 110 couple of mont, visited a Hondadealer in Nice(France). It looked,,,,well, okay. Thatīs all.
Iīve been told that Zoomer is for last year now.

I have still the Innova(bought it 2007) and Iīm happy with it. I just need a moped, I really donīt know why I sell theme and after an hour I regret.


About the sortet out:

We have winter here, alsoms one meter snow(but I ride a CBR 600 with studded tyres http://www.saarela.se/film/youtube/111208.html )
Tuesday evening I loaded the Innova:




Thursday I rumble around in Kiel among others on har froozen beaches. It looks warm, but it was zero Celsius



Friday I visited the Swedish exhibition and checked out the Vision 50. Looks okay and felt okay.
So, if everything goes as it should.....maybe flight to Gothenburg and then.......
Under 2000 euro and five years warranty....canīt be wrong?
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:52 AM   #133
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wow that video of the cbr 600 is crazy how do you have any grip for braking, steering...... and how do you stay warm when it is already so cold and you have wind chill on a bike also!

i like your web page, pity the english part is smaller than the swedish part, i want to see it all!!

was just wondering, how come you like the vision 50 and do not like the vision 110, they are the same bike!
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:56 AM   #134
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Great

Great adventures and road trips , halfway trough the story's now

Thanks for putting your story up
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:25 PM   #135
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wow that video of the cbr 600 is crazy how do you have any grip for braking, steering...... and how do you stay warm when it is already so cold and you have wind chill on a bike also!

i like your web page, pity the english part is smaller than the swedish part, i want to see it all!!

was just wondering, how come you like the vision 50 and do not like the vision 110, they are the same bike!
Winterrides learning by doing. Have ride since 1996/1997, started with a small 250 and ended up with a heavy Varadero 1000. Have cost few injurance like broken ribs and totally bindness couple of days
Thankīs for your homepagecomment, it takes time to do it in swedish and my english is not so good so...

Sorry for the little missunderstanding, of course vision 110 is a great scoot as the 50cc, only thing is that they looks like the other scoots on the market. I like the small scoot products from Honda, even the 50cc mopeds has 5 years warranty here in Sweden.
I canīt imagine travelling long distances with other scoots?
But....I like the look of Innova and the "new" Wave 110, ment only that


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Great adventures and road trips , halfway trough the story's now

Thanks for putting your story up
Thank you very much bakker. Hope you enjoyed the rest of it
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