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Old 02-13-2012, 01:16 AM   #91
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Could be worse. I could be a Victorian

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Old 02-13-2012, 04:22 AM   #92
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:59 PM   #93
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Yeah, all three of yous can get rooted I guess that was the response you were seeking
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:21 PM   #94
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:44 PM   #95
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:14 PM   #96
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What, me fishing for a response from bloody Victorians. Never.

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Old 03-27-2012, 04:54 AM   #97
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Hi Mick how is your sidecar going ?
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:30 PM   #98
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8,000 kms now

I've done 8,000 kms on it Pops, and have it in the shed for a 10,000 km service. It's pretty much sorted as far as I can go with it. Fine for distance work, but I'm still playing with ways to get the wind off Kipper in the tub now that winter is coming. Hard to get that right without getting a specially made screen, so it's a matter of playing with vents and air deflectors.

The service is a full set of adjustments and my helper is now in WA, so I'm taking it slow and easy. It's a bit harder to do some stuff by yourself, and I am going by the book and removing bits I normally don't touch for access or adjustment. And of course, if there is an inconvenient place to put a sidecar attachment that will get in the way, then that's where SRK put it! I almost need to build up a specialised set of 'BMW+sidecar' tools! I must have a dozen 10mm sockets and spanners, but still had to break out an unused 1/4-drive set of sockets and find a small 1/4-drive T-bar to get to the crash-bar bolts!

Rear tyre wear is ok. I put a new rear Dunlop Trailmax on about 4,000 kms ago, and it still has another 3 or 4,000 kms left in it. Maybe! The rig did another fast 800 km trip a few weekend's back, and then a couple more hundred last weekend to get the oils hot enough to do a change. I could live with the tyre wear, but have been in contact with Stroker about his rear wheels. He's busy with work, but will get back to me soon with a shipping price. I have other options on that if necessary.

The bike definitely works harder than when it was sans-sidecar. The oil is far darker out of the gearbox and engine than I'm used to seeing on both my R1150 bikes. More frequent changes are probably required. The second-hand rear drive is still holding up well. Bit of a surprise given its 100,000 km history before I put it in. My rebuilt original is in the shed gathering dust. I may need to get enthusiastic and swap them back over at some stage, but ...............

I've had to run much more lean-out than I wanted, and have started to run out of adjustnment on some of the threaded clevis rods that SRK used. The bike is still fairly upright, but maybe one more turn will see it as good as it can get. I think SRK grossly underestimated how to set a GS up and used their 'roadbike' standards when making the attachment rods. I've now replaced all the attachment bolts to get the correct lengths (for safety), but still haven't obtained the 3 main upright bolts with drilled heads so that I can safety-wire them. I just check them often.

Front head-shake still appears at very low speeds every now and then, but isn't an issue and I tend to ride through that. Steering is still not 'light', but I'm actually not concerned enough to do anything about it. It's hard work in the mountains, but I avoid them if I can! It probably needs a trail reducer, but I haven't done the hunting for that yet. I guess it shows that the steering is ok for me at the moment, but could be improved. Not a biggy.

I have a run to Lightning Ridge coming up, and since it's a 1,500 km round trip and I'm doing it in a 24 hour day, I am contemplating doing it as an IBA run and making it a 1600/24. Probably a first for a sidecar and dog in Australia, if I do it that way.

The build quality is still a problem with the outfit, but I've addressed most issues myself and have a few little things to do if (when) I remove the tub from the frame at some stage. 'Pi55-poor' as they say.

Rear shock upgrade is excellent. Really happy with Laurie's work and really happy with the way the rig handles the back-roads and minor dirt roads. I need to change my on-board storage to soft bags as the hard plastic box tends to shake and rattle too much, but that's due to the light overall weight and shock-mounts between the tub and tub chassis. It still gets a strange wallow up when you hit dips. I guess that's due to each wheel hitting the dip at a different time.

I had a scare with a car recently and had to do a full-on emergency stop when the driver failed to give way. The brakes worked, but you really have to watch how you apply them! It's more of an adjustment on the brakes by using front or rear or both or none, while steering and making steering adjustments as the suspension settles, all at the same time. Such fun!

Other than all that, I'm still considering a trip to WA at some stage to visit a mate, but I have a few things going on here that might make it difficult to take a long break until later in the year, so it's not planned yet, other than the fact that I stare at a map of Australia every day and think about doing another lap!

So yep - The rig is still running. I need to get this service done over the next weekend or so, and then get some more serious miles under the wheels.

Cheers, Mick.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:03 PM   #99
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Good news Mick .Great to hear you are getting some ride time in.
When i get back to riding again i will will be going the same way as you and get the rear shock done.

I think i said before Mick the best thing we did to ours with the standard forks was to fit a trail reducer .
It was unreal how much better it is to ride with it fitted.
Made the bike a pleasure to ride all day ,even with strong side winds and twisty roads in the hills.
The only downside was having to get a stronger front shock .

The wallow you talked about .

(Definition) To roll oneself about in a lazy, relaxed, or ungainly manner >
Same on our gsa

When we are doing a lot of dirt riding i back off the dampers on the 4 shocks .And reduce tyre pressures .It makes for a lot better ride on the corrugations, it lets the shocks work better (faster) in soaking up the bumps.
But we do get more wallow.
Then when we ride on the tar we have to adjust the dampers back up "harder" and it seems to stops most of the wallow.
I know a sway bar will fix it, but i can live with it for now .

Ride safe .
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:49 PM   #100
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A minor update on tyre life

Heading towards 10,000 kms with Goliath now, and the rear Dundlop Trailmax TR91 has 8,000 hard touring kilometres (5,000 miles) on it, and is about stuffed! This was fitted new, so I now know what life a rear tyre has. Not much!

The front Trailmax is still running, but it was half worn when the chair got bolted on, so I think it's showing about 15,000 kilometres of wear. It's also ready for replacement, but I have another one with a few thousand left in it that I'll probably fit.

The chair wheel doesn't seem to have much wear at all. The tyre was very second-hand when it went on, and still looks much the same.

I definitely need a trail reducer if I want to take this beast into the tighter stuff. It's fine on the back-country roads and sweepers, but is a great muscle-builder once the corners get down to 55 kph and below.

Anyway, I'm off to Lightning Ridge in a few weeks and may take the dirt roads home as the rig seems to be quite comfortable on the back tracks. It actually feels pretty good on dirt, so long as the corrugations aren't too bad as my hard storage box tends to rattle a lot. I may need to go to a soft padded bag arrangement for my on-board tools and spares.

The second-hand rear drive I fitted is still holding together and the oil change last night was clean and metal-free. I guess that's a good sign. Overall, the rig seems to be working ok and holding together ok. Kipper is very happy with his accommodation!

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Old 05-07-2012, 03:20 PM   #101
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A tyre update

Just an update on tyres for those following this thread. I ran my used Kenda Big Block on the rear on a highway run to Sydney and back, plus a few side roads. Maybe 1,000 kms in total. It's amazing how much howl a tyre can generate! And how much shredded rubber can stick to the rim! Needless to say, the Big Block is now the spare on the back of the chair.

So, in order to try something different to the Dunlop Trailmax I was running, I've fitted a matched pair of Heidenau K60 Scouts. The rear is the new version with the full tread down the centre. It's a zig-zag pattern, and shouldn't generate the howl that a full knobby does. The front is a small-block knobby with a decent 'V' pattern to the centre tread, so I am hoping it won't generate too much noise either.

Tread is quite deep on both tyres, and indications are that guys are getting good miles out of these tyres in solo form. At AU$450 a pair, it's a reasonable cost for trialling something that has better off-road grip and possibly good on-road life. They certainly look good on the outfit.

I have a run to O'Connell this weekend, so the tyres will get some slab work and some mountain work. It's only a 600 km trip, so not a big test. The following weekend is a 24-hour run to Lightning Ridge and back, which is mostly secondary-road cruising at 100 kph. That one is a 1,500 km round trip. I'll let you know how they go.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:50 AM   #102
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G'day Mick,
I've just put a Kenda Big Block on the front of the BM so it'll be interesting to see what milage I get.Also how loud it will be.

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Old 05-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #103
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New Rubber

Gotta love the Heidies! I am really happy with both ends. Only a light 'humm' from the front and nothing from the rear, so really pleased with the lack of road noise. They seem to have good grip on tarmac and marble-type dirt, so that's a big plus for my riding.

The front seems to work well in its 'normal' orientation due to the tread groove direction.



Rear looks like it will be the goods, provided I get some decent miles out of it. The new centre strip on them is a brilliant idea for the compromise between wear, noise and grip.



I also got out with my old work buddy who now runs my old R1150R. It was always a good machine on the dirt. This is him keeping back out of the dust!



And parked along the way at Black Springs on the road to O'Connell.



One more shot at the pub for posterity!



It was a fairly spirited ride given the hills and the need to use the gears a lot, so my fuel economy was dismal. 26 litres for 320 kilometers is not a good thing, especially when my old bike used 16 litres for the same distance! Oh well, the price of running a sidecar compared to a more aerodynamic, lighter, and better geared machine I suppose.

A fun day out with about 500 kilometres done all-up, so it was a good tyre test on a huge mix of roads from highway slab to mountain hairpins to mediocre dirt. Tyres are brilliant! Sidewalls are very stiff, so lower pressures are needed that what I ran with. Otherwise, I am a very happy camper.

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Old 05-14-2012, 05:10 AM   #104
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Great to hear you are enjoying riding the sidecar on some good rides .
Some nice country you have down there .
How is the dog taking to it

Your fuel economy is good compared to ours .
We use around 10lt for 100km. 300kms and she is bone dry


What revs are you doing at say 100 kph .

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Revs and speed

Kipper loves it. Gets very excited when he hears me putting my ride gear on and rushes to the garage and jumps in. I have to get him out to dress him in his harness and coat!

I try and restrict my rpm to 4,000. That's about 106 kph. Measured by GPS, but I've also done the speedo hub mod so the speedo is reading about 2 kph less.

I can pull close to 400 kms out of a tank if I sit on a sedate 95-100 kph, and don't have hills to contend with. The RT rear drive I temporarlily fitted is a slightly better ratio for me, but only makes a marginal difference.

The rig will cruise at 125-130 kph, and actually is very neutral at that speed, but fuel use is horrendous once you push it over 4500 rpm, so I tend to limit my speeds. It gets annoying on 110 freeways to be travelling at slightly lower speeds than the general traffic, but I find that my 'true' (GPS) speeds are about right for cars that think they are doing 110 kph off their speedo, but are actually slower.

Tyre heat is a potential issue at the higher speeds as well. I'm wary of that.

Cheers, Mick.
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