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Old 02-23-2012, 05:05 AM   #60406
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Got a question guys, I replaced my front sprocket last night. Going to a 520 setup, and using a 15t sprocket in the front. I just want to make sure I am installing it correctly. The raised side of the sprocket with the numbers faces in, correct? I am supposed to put the sprocket on, then the rubber seal, then put the retainer on, rotate the retainer in the slot so the holes line up with the sprocket holes, then screw it to the sprocket? This means the sprocket is locked in place and doesn't float on the countershaft? I thought the sprocket was supposed to float on the countershaft so it can self align with the chain? People sometimes ditch the retainer and use a clip instead, wouldn't this allow the sprocket to move back and forth on the countershaft?

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Old 02-23-2012, 05:09 AM   #60407
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Hello,

2009 with 3000 miles and pinging. Took the chain roller off. Turned fuel screw out 2 turns.
Filled with premium gas. $4.50 gal. still pinging. OUCH!! Plug closest to outside,nice color, inside one,white. Valves are in spec.
Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance to all who answer.

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Did you just get the bike or is this a problem that has just started? DR650s are pretty noisey beasts by nature.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:22 AM   #60408
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I'll get more pics today. She is in need of a new battery so I'll get that sorted today. Anyone got a recommendation on a good battery?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66282888@N00/6775871076/
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:16 AM   #60409
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I believe it is the other way round, last in!
Thanks for the reply,

I was looking again at the manual and it seems it should go in first:



I think I will look at how the older one installed when I take the cover off and report,

Something fishy in the fiche

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Old 02-23-2012, 07:46 AM   #60410
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I'll get more pics today. She is in need of a new battery so I'll get that sorted today. Anyone got a recommendation on a good battery?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66282888@N00/6775871076/

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Old 02-23-2012, 07:52 AM   #60411
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Hello,

2009 with 3000 miles and pinging. Took the chain roller off. Turned fuel screw out 2 turns.
Filled with premium gas. $4.50 gal. still pinging. OUCH!! Plug closest to outside,nice color, inside one,white. Valves are in spec.
Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance to all who answer.

Heirhead
Couple of things to try:
If the gas was old or had been sitting for awhile the pilot jet may be gummed up. Try a healthy dose of a Techron additive for a tankful (the little bit in the gas won't do it). Or the carb may just need to be removed and cleaned.

Also the stock DR does not like lower RPMs and will make all sorts of horrible noises if you try to give it much throttle when the RPM is to low. Keep the RPMs up (over 2500\3000 if you have a tach). When in doubt downshift.

Also the chain can make a racket (and sound like engine noise) when loose and hitting the rear chain guide. Don't worry about it if that is the cause (it will quite down with time). Tightening the chain will cure the noise but it is easy to overtighten the chain, which is much worse. The DR chain has a way of going from too loose to too tight when only moving the adjuster one notch. So error on loose.

Good luck

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Old 02-23-2012, 09:24 AM   #60412
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Got a question guys, I replaced my front sprocket last night. Going to a 520 setup, and using a 15t sprocket in the front. I just want to make sure I am installing it correctly. The raised side of the sprocket with the numbers faces in, correct? I am supposed to put the sprocket on, then the rubber seal, then put the retainer on, rotate the retainer in the slot so the holes line up with the sprocket holes, then screw it to the sprocket? This means the sprocket is locked in place and doesn't float on the countershaft? I thought the sprocket was supposed to float on the countershaft so it can self align with the chain? People sometimes ditch the retainer and use a clip instead, wouldn't this allow the sprocket to move back and forth on the countershaft?
You have it right. It is undesirable to allow the sprocket to float on the shaft. While floating won't really hurt anything right away it will cause more wear in the shaft than if the sprocket is held firmly in place. The chain wobbles and whips around enough that it is a very unreliable way of locating the sprocket. What you want is the other way around - to have the sprocket keep the chain aligned.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:39 AM   #60413
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Great, glad to hear I have it right! Thanks for your response, as always.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:49 AM   #60414
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I'll get more pics today. She is in need of a new battery so I'll get that sorted today. Anyone got a recommendation on a good battery?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66282888@N00/6775871076/
I buy the Power Sonic, PTX9-BS from a local industrial battery supplier for under $50 and it has lasted 4 years. It's time to be replaced now though. Doesn't hold a charge well. For the price, it is a great buy.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:25 AM   #60415
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DRZ400S vs; DR650SE

Cycleman, not sure what your primary riding will be; mostly onroad or offroad?

If you mainly want a street legal dirtbike for offroading, but will do 100+ mi tarmac sections getting there, then go DRZ400S & install a Sargent or Corbin, (or widen the stock seat 2" yourself w/ car upholstery foam). If you mainly want a comfortable long-distance or backroad touring bike to also explore dirtroads, then go DR650. The Laminar BKing windscreen fits/works great as a wind deflector on both DR & Z headlight nacelles.

I love my DR, but my stock Z was very capable & very fast offroad with excellent suspension/power, & not bad on long highway sections either. My pal bought my Z, modified it extensively, Corbin seat, etc, & road it 50k miles down to Patagonia, around NZ, Aus, southeast Asia, etc, so it can do long distance well. You really can't go wrong as they're both great bikes, just decide what you really want it for. Other inmates will have some good advice for you too...

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Found a good deal on both bikes but not not sure which way to go. I intend to use the bike off road but it will surely see tarmac time. I like the travel and height of the DRZ better but not sure how it will be on the road for 100mi at a time. Thanks for the help. Thanks in advance.

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Old 02-23-2012, 12:27 PM   #60416
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Well, got to ride today, put a few miles on and filled it back up, got 46.30 MPG
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:40 PM   #60417
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Honestly, the DRZ and the DR arent worlds apart.

The DRZ has better brakes and suspension, the DR is arguably more durable, more powerful and with an aftermarket tank has much longer legs. The DRZ is more agile, vs the DR which is pretty stable.

That said I've played around with friends who have DRZ-400SMs and my 650 made short work of them with my GP1s on. I'd bet it takes a much better pilot than your average joe to really utilize either platform to the point where the bike's limitations really tax street performance.

That said the DRZ felt pretty quick to about 40-ish. I like both bikes, but I bought the DR due to durability and highway capability. It'll go anywhere the DRZ will, it just wont do it as quickly or as cleanly.
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:16 PM   #60418
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Ahh, well hell, I just ordered a TM40, it's only money, right? Hope Procycle sends me one of those nice yellow coffee mugs, (hint hint, nod nod, wink wink)
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:37 PM   #60419
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:39 PM   #60420
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Thanks for the reply,

I was looking again at the manual and it seems it should go in first:



I think I will look at how the older one installed when I take the cover off and report,

Something fishy in the fiche

Amit
Sorry I guess I was wrong! When I did my NSU way back I took them all out and just replaced in the same order but honestly thought I recalled putting that plate in last.....!
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