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Old 03-08-2012, 04:20 AM   #16
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My primary concern is him falling out. I have a Giant Schnauzer, and even when seated his center of gravity is well above the side of the tub. I honestly don't think he'd jump out.


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Old 03-08-2012, 04:41 AM   #17
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For dogs in side cars, on the back of bikes, and in utes (pickups), there are conflicting needs to keep the dog on board and in a safe location when under way and not unnecessarily harming the dog in an accident.

What's called for is a weak link of consistent strength that won't harm the dog if it's thrown from the vehicle.

One option is a decent strength magnet on the end of a suitable length lead and, if necessary, a small steel plate in a suitable location.

I only thought of this years after we used to carry a couple of German Shepherds on the backs of bikes, but it would have been ideal with a short, 1 foot or so, lead to the centre front of their boxes. One in particular had an unholy fascination with trams (streetcars) and would leeeeeean out one side, before realising there was an equally, of not even more fascinating crowd of waiting would-be passengers on the footpath (sidewalk, why can't you people just speak english like the rest of us?) requiring inspection just as you came to a halt.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:42 AM   #18
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The magnet is a great idea. I like the idea of something that will secure him from accidentally falling out but break away should we go for a flight.

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Old 03-08-2012, 07:40 AM   #19
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Try a google search for "bicycle mount vacuum cups". There's a place, I think in Mr. Airy that sells them. Kind of like a suction cup but uses an adjustable vacuum instead. Might be worth a look.

I send you some links but my google-fu is weak behind the firewall.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:51 AM   #20
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Tracking those suction cups. It is my experience that those things don't really come loose though.

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:45 PM   #21
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nylon straps and some velcro?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746284

Local canoe shop here makes pads/dog beds using life jacket materials, look like they'd be good in the floor of the tub for fido.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:03 PM   #22
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nylon straps and some velcro?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746284

Local canoe shop here makes pads/dog beds using life jacket materials, look like they'd be good in the floor of the tub for fido.
How local? You're a stones throw from me, so I would love to check that out. I was thinking of ordering one from the guy on SovietSteeds, but id rather buy local if I can.


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Old 03-09-2012, 01:52 PM   #23
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OK, I figured out a decent setup today. It's a start in the right direction. I went to Lowe's looking for a magnet. I wanted something substantial without being large. I did not find that.

I did, however, find a cheap magnet for picking up nails and screws. It was $15 and came with an aluminum extension handle. The length seemed perfect for the footrest of the hack. It turned out to be perfect.

I removed the handle and attached a small lead using the bolt for the handle to secure it.





Then I simply attached it to the footrest. It takes about 20 pounds of force to remove it.

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Then I put him in his step -in harness. I connect the lead to the harness with a load-bearing S-hook. These aren't as strong as carabiners, but I didn't have any small carabiners around. I did have these, and I've hung 100lb rucksacks from them before, so I know they'll hold.

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Now, I figure twenty pounds will give him enough resistance to recover if he starts to fall out of the sidecar. I hooked him up and tried to coax him out. He had to give it a really tough jolt to get it to release, and then it just reattached elsewhere. Remember, I don't want him to fall out, but I do want him to get ejected in the case of a bad accident. I may well replace the magnet with something smaller and stronger if I find one, but I think this might actually work well for now.
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:26 PM   #24
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2011 Gear Up? I have a 2011 Patrol and don't have a foot rest. . .
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:28 PM   #25
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Here's a link to the OEM rack company:

http://www.seasucker.com/landing_sep...CatalogWEB.pdf
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:56 PM   #26
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2011 Gear Up? I have a 2011 Patrol and don't have a foot rest. . .
So that's what the few extra grand got me, a shovel AND a foot rest! I feel totally justified in my expenditures now.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:58 PM   #27
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Don't forget the spotlight as well. . .

Here's a link to the harness/tether I had mentioned before (in case you ever need it):

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...7&pcatid=19387
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:29 PM   #28
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How local? You're a stones throw from me, so I would love to check that out. I was thinking of ordering one from the guy on SovietSteeds, but id rather buy local if I can.


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Shop by the name of Get Outdoors on Lee St in Greensboro, 1/4 mile east of Coliseum. beds look weatherproof. Couple of places in High Point sell foam if you want to make a bed yourself.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:23 PM   #29
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Shop by the name of Get Outdoors on Lee St in Greensboro, 1/4 mile east of Coliseum. beds look weatherproof. Couple of places in High Point sell foam if you want to make a bed yourself.
No kidding! I'm originally from Greensboro and know exactly where you're talking about. I suppose I would need to take the Ural up there so they could make the pattern.

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Old 03-09-2012, 10:59 PM   #30
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OK, I figured out a decent setup today. It's a start in the right direction. I went to Lowe's looking for a magnet. I wanted something substantial without being large. I did not find that.

I did, however, find a cheap magnet for picking up nails and screws. It was $15 and came with an aluminum extension handle. The length seemed perfect for the footrest of the hack. It turned out to be perfect.

I removed the handle and attached a small lead using the bolt for the handle to secure it.





Then I simply attached it to the footrest. It takes about 20 pounds of force to remove it.




Then I put him in his step -in harness. I connect the lead to the harness with a load-bearing S-hook. These aren't as strong as carabiners, but I didn't have any small carabiners around. I did have these, and I've hung 100lb rucksacks from them before, so I know they'll hold.





Now, I figure twenty pounds will give him enough resistance to recover if he starts to fall out of the sidecar. I hooked him up and tried to coax him out. He had to give it a really tough jolt to get it to release, and then it just reattached elsewhere. Remember, I don't want him to fall out, but I do want him to get ejected in the case of a bad accident. I may well replace the magnet with something smaller and stronger if I find one, but I think this might actually work well for now.
So you have a minor prang......... The dog flies out with the magnet............... It catches a passing truck............. And the dog goes interstate.........
Sorry could not help that one.
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