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RidingDonkeys · 03-08-2012, 03:20 AM

My primary concern is him falling out. I have a Giant Schnauzer, and even when seated his center of gravity is well above the side of the tub. I honestly don't think he'd jump out.

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eepeqez · 03-08-2012, 03:41 AM

For dogs in side cars, on the back of bikes, and in utes (pickups), there are conflicting needs to keep the dog on board and in a safe location when under way and not unnecessarily harming the dog in an accident.

What's called for is a weak link of consistent strength that won't harm the dog if it's thrown from the vehicle.

One option is a decent strength magnet on the end of a suitable length lead and, if necessary, a small steel plate in a suitable location.

I only thought of this years after we used to carry a couple of German Shepherds on the backs of bikes, but it would have been ideal with a short, 1 foot or so, lead to the centre front of their boxes. One in particular had an unholy fascination with trams (streetcars) and would leeeeeean out one side, before realising there was an equally, of not even more fascinating crowd of waiting would-be passengers on the footpath (sidewalk, why can't you people just speak english like the rest of us?) requiring inspection just as you came to a halt.

RidingDonkeys · 03-08-2012, 05:42 AM

The magnet is a great idea. I like the idea of something that will secure him from accidentally falling out but break away should we go for a flight.

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KneeDrachen · 03-08-2012, 06:40 AM

Try a google search for "bicycle mount vacuum cups". There's a place, I think in Mr. Airy that sells them. Kind of like a suction cup but uses an adjustable vacuum instead. Might be worth a look.

I send you some links but my google-fu is weak behind the firewall.

RidingDonkeys · 03-08-2012, 09:51 AM

Tracking those suction cups. It is my experience that those things don't really come loose though.

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4PawsHacienda · 03-08-2012, 11:45 AM

nylon straps and some velcro?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746284

Local canoe shop here makes pads/dog beds using life jacket materials, look like they'd be good in the floor of the tub for fido.

RidingDonkeys · 03-08-2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4PawsHacienda

nylon straps and some velcro?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746284

Local canoe shop here makes pads/dog beds using life jacket materials, look like they'd be good in the floor of the tub for fido.

How local? You're a stones throw from me, so I would love to check that out. I was thinking of ordering one from the guy on SovietSteeds, but id rather buy local if I can.

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RidingDonkeys · 03-09-2012, 12:52 PM

OK, I figured out a decent setup today. It's a start in the right direction. I went to Lowe's looking for a magnet. I wanted something substantial without being large. I did not find that.

I did, however, find a cheap magnet for picking up nails and screws. It was $15 and came with an aluminum extension handle. The length seemed perfect for the footrest of the hack. It turned out to be perfect.

I removed the handle and attached a small lead using the bolt for the handle to secure it.

Then I simply attached it to the footrest. It takes about 20 pounds of force to remove it.

Then I put him in his step -in harness. I connect the lead to the harness with a load-bearing S-hook. These aren't as strong as carabiners, but I didn't have any small carabiners around. I did have these, and I've hung 100lb rucksacks from them before, so I know they'll hold.

Now, I figure twenty pounds will give him enough resistance to recover if he starts to fall out of the sidecar. I hooked him up and tried to coax him out. He had to give it a really tough jolt to get it to release, and then it just reattached elsewhere. Remember, I don't want him to fall out, but I do want him to get ejected in the case of a bad accident. I may well replace the magnet with something smaller and stronger if I find one, but I think this might actually work well for now.

KneeDrachen · 03-09-2012, 02:26 PM

2011 Gear Up? I have a 2011 Patrol and don't have a foot rest. . .

KneeDrachen · 03-09-2012, 02:28 PM

Here's a link to the OEM rack company:

http://www.seasucker.com/landing_sep...CatalogWEB.pdf

RidingDonkeys · 03-09-2012, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KneeDrachen

2011 Gear Up? I have a 2011 Patrol and don't have a foot rest. . .

So that's what the few extra grand got me, a shovel AND a foot rest! I feel totally justified in my expenditures now.

KneeDrachen · 03-09-2012, 04:58 PM

Don't forget the spotlight as well. . .

Here's a link to the harness/tether I had mentioned before (in case you ever need it):

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...7&pcatid=19387

4PawsHacienda · 03-09-2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RidingDonkeys

How local? You're a stones throw from me, so I would love to check that out. I was thinking of ordering one from the guy on SovietSteeds, but id rather buy local if I can.

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Shop by the name of Get Outdoors on Lee St in Greensboro, 1/4 mile east of Coliseum. beds look weatherproof. Couple of places in High Point sell foam if you want to make a bed yourself.

RidingDonkeys · 03-09-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4PawsHacienda

Shop by the name of Get Outdoors on Lee St in Greensboro, 1/4 mile east of Coliseum. beds look weatherproof. Couple of places in High Point sell foam if you want to make a bed yourself.

No kidding! I'm originally from Greensboro and know exactly where you're talking about. I suppose I would need to take the Ural up there so they could make the pattern.

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brstar · 03-09-2012, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RidingDonkeys

OK, I figured out a decent setup today. It's a start in the right direction. I went to Lowe's looking for a magnet. I wanted something substantial without being large. I did not find that.

I did, however, find a cheap magnet for picking up nails and screws. It was $15 and came with an aluminum extension handle. The length seemed perfect for the footrest of the hack. It turned out to be perfect.

I removed the handle and attached a small lead using the bolt for the handle to secure it.

Then I simply attached it to the footrest. It takes about 20 pounds of force to remove it.

Then I put him in his step -in harness. I connect the lead to the harness with a load-bearing S-hook. These aren't as strong as carabiners, but I didn't have any small carabiners around. I did have these, and I've hung 100lb rucksacks from them before, so I know they'll hold.

Now, I figure twenty pounds will give him enough resistance to recover if he starts to fall out of the sidecar. I hooked him up and tried to coax him out. He had to give it a really tough jolt to get it to release, and then it just reattached elsewhere. Remember, I don't want him to fall out, but I do want him to get ejected in the case of a bad accident. I may well replace the magnet with something smaller and stronger if I find one, but I think this might actually work well for now.

So you have a minor prang......... The dog flies out with the magnet............... It catches a passing truck............. And the dog goes interstate.........

Sorry could not help that one.
Cheers

03-08-2012, 03:20 AM	#16
RidingDonkeys ^OP Purveyor of Awesome Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Southern Pines, North Carolina, USA Oddometer: 3,353	My primary concern is him falling out. I have a Giant Schnauzer, and even when seated his center of gravity is well above the side of the tub. I honestly don't think he'd jump out. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk __________________ '67 Bonnie, '68 Tiger, (position vacant), '07 Bonnie/Cargo Hack, '11 Ural Gear-Up, '13 Husqvarna TR650 and a deep lust for more

03-08-2012, 05:42 AM	#18
RidingDonkeys ^OP Purveyor of Awesome Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Southern Pines, North Carolina, USA Oddometer: 3,353	The magnet is a great idea. I like the idea of something that will secure him from accidentally falling out but break away should we go for a flight. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk __________________ '67 Bonnie, '68 Tiger, (position vacant), '07 Bonnie/Cargo Hack, '11 Ural Gear-Up, '13 Husqvarna TR650 and a deep lust for more

03-08-2012, 06:40 AM	#19
KneeDrachen MORE COWBELL!!! Joined: Jul 2006 Location: HarCo, MD Oddometer: 1,089	Try a google search for "bicycle mount vacuum cups". There's a place, I think in Mr. Airy that sells them. Kind of like a suction cup but uses an adjustable vacuum instead. Might be worth a look. I send you some links but my google-fu is weak behind the firewall. __________________ Breathe, keep breathing, I can't do this alone

03-08-2012, 09:51 AM	#20
RidingDonkeys ^OP Purveyor of Awesome Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Southern Pines, North Carolina, USA Oddometer: 3,353	Tracking those suction cups. It is my experience that those things don't really come loose though. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk __________________ '67 Bonnie, '68 Tiger, (position vacant), '07 Bonnie/Cargo Hack, '11 Ural Gear-Up, '13 Husqvarna TR650 and a deep lust for more

03-09-2012, 12:52 PM	#23
RidingDonkeys ^OP Purveyor of Awesome Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Southern Pines, North Carolina, USA Oddometer: 3,353	OK, I figured out a decent setup today. It's a start in the right direction. I went to Lowe's looking for a magnet. I wanted something substantial without being large. I did not find that. I did, however, find a cheap magnet for picking up nails and screws. It was $15 and came with an aluminum extension handle. The length seemed perfect for the footrest of the hack. It turned out to be perfect. I removed the handle and attached a small lead using the bolt for the handle to secure it. Then I simply attached it to the footrest. It takes about 20 pounds of force to remove it. Then I put him in his step -in harness. I connect the lead to the harness with a load-bearing S-hook. These aren't as strong as carabiners, but I didn't have any small carabiners around. I did have these, and I've hung 100lb rucksacks from them before, so I know they'll hold. Now, I figure twenty pounds will give him enough resistance to recover if he starts to fall out of the sidecar. I hooked him up and tried to coax him out. He had to give it a really tough jolt to get it to release, and then it just reattached elsewhere. Remember, I don't want him to fall out, but I do want him to get ejected in the case of a bad accident. I may well replace the magnet with something smaller and stronger if I find one, but I think this might actually work well for now. __________________ '67 Bonnie, '68 Tiger, (position vacant), '07 Bonnie/Cargo Hack, '11 Ural Gear-Up, '13 Husqvarna TR650 and a deep lust for more

03-08-2012, 03:41 AM	#17
eepeqez Beastly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Oddometer: 2,027	For dogs in side cars, on the back of bikes, and in utes (pickups), there are conflicting needs to keep the dog on board and in a safe location when under way and not unnecessarily harming the dog in an accident. What's called for is a weak link of consistent strength that won't harm the dog if it's thrown from the vehicle. One option is a decent strength magnet on the end of a suitable length lead and, if necessary, a small steel plate in a suitable location. I only thought of this years after we used to carry a couple of German Shepherds on the backs of bikes, but it would have been ideal with a short, 1 foot or so, lead to the centre front of their boxes. One in particular had an unholy fascination with trams (streetcars) and would leeeeeean out one side, before realising there was an equally, of not even more fascinating crowd of waiting would-be passengers on the footpath (sidewalk, why can't you people just speak english like the rest of us?) requiring inspection just as you came to a halt.

03-08-2012, 11:45 AM	#21
4PawsHacienda Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Climax NC or Fancy Gap VA (milemarker 199 BRP) Oddometer: 298	nylon straps and some velcro? http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746284 Local canoe shop here makes pads/dog beds using life jacket materials, look like they'd be good in the floor of the tub for fido.

03-09-2012, 02:26 PM	#24
KneeDrachen MORE COWBELL!!! Joined: Jul 2006 Location: HarCo, MD Oddometer: 1,089	2011 Gear Up? I have a 2011 Patrol and don't have a foot rest. . . __________________ Breathe, keep breathing, I can't do this alone

03-09-2012, 02:28 PM	#25
KneeDrachen MORE COWBELL!!! Joined: Jul 2006 Location: HarCo, MD Oddometer: 1,089	Here's a link to the OEM rack company: http://www.seasucker.com/landing_sep...CatalogWEB.pdf __________________ Breathe, keep breathing, I can't do this alone

03-09-2012, 04:58 PM	#27
KneeDrachen MORE COWBELL!!! Joined: Jul 2006 Location: HarCo, MD Oddometer: 1,089	Don't forget the spotlight as well. . . Here's a link to the harness/tether I had mentioned before (in case you ever need it): http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...7&pcatid=19387 __________________ Breathe, keep breathing, I can't do this alone

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