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Old 03-20-2012, 04:51 AM   #1336
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Nice clean setup. Let us know how the ride goes.
will do, but the rat bike world will want to know how your mountain west ride goes.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:57 AM   #1337
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Bags look like new. If they get dirty again, try some waterless hand cleaner like Go Jo.
never tried that stuff. i used the vinyl cleaner, but also a fine 3M scuffing pad, the kind you would use for paint prep. the grime and scuffs came right off, i was surprised. wiped them down with Armorall, should make them easier to clean next time
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:08 AM   #1338
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Dang, the F8GS is looking kinda shabby.

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don't ya have some of that foamy horse wash stuff on the shelf in the barn, or did the well run dry, ya need to wash that bike. the 800 is carrying around an extra 75# of Montana mud, your new suspension won't work as advertized.

the Expedition bags do have a Montana connection. i got more interested in them when i met two riders on KTM950s on the gravel below Bannock, both were outfitted with the Expeditions and they really liked them, so when i got home i started to look a little harder for some used bags.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:11 AM   #1339
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The bike just keeps looking better! The Wolfman luggage and racks looks great.
thanks, hope it all works.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #1340
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...It looks like it stands off from the mount points where the angle bolts to the frame, what do you use for this?...
lousy photo of the back of the mounts, but you can see what's going on back there. everything fabbed in 3/16" (5mm) material.



there are several reasons for doing it this way, the main one being fitment. there's about 1/2" adjustment out, and a practical limit of about 1" adjustment in. this allows you to see several different placements of the racks without difficulty, then you adjust your mounts to get everything uniform, parallel in both planes, and plumb. not as easy as it sounds, and this is one of those cases where you're locking everything together by welding in place. the assembly is then removed as one piece, and finished with double filet welds.

when i went back and added the additional connection, i found only 1/16" variance between the two sides, not bad.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:54 AM   #1341
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Bags look like new. If they get dirty again, try some waterless hand cleaner like Go Jo.
hmmmm...let's revisit this.

got the Wolfman bags clean, now my Ortlieb duffles were looking terrible in comparison, time to try to clean those up.

the Ortliebs have been all over the place, the large in particular, including maybe 15,000 miles with a spare tire strapped across the top. the vinyl cleaner took most of the grime off, but would hardly touch those dark black scuffs from the tire. had some hand cleaner and tried that stuff on the black, bingo, cleaned right up. thanks, turned out to be a good tip, saved a bunch of time.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:15 PM   #1342
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ya need to have some fun with these things...so, did the repaint, time to re badge the rat.

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Old 03-21-2012, 05:44 PM   #1343
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This thread is giving me all sorts of bad ideas.

I've got alerts set up for every craigslist post within 500 miles and I'm scouring the iaai listings. I don't see very many versys' for sale, but I can wait.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:39 PM   #1344
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This thread is giving me all sorts of bad ideas.

I've got alerts set up for every craigslist post within 500 miles and I'm scouring the iaai listings. I don't see very many versys' for sale, but I can wait.
The Ninja 650R is nearly the same bike but with more power and street suspension.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:20 PM   #1345
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Wow, I think those brackets are more stout than the frame. No need to find a welder when your back in the boonies.

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Old 03-21-2012, 10:07 PM   #1346
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The Ninja 650R is nearly the same bike but with more power and street suspension.
That's true, but I don't need the extra HP. Having a standard seating position and DRZ fork compatibility will simplify things a bit (I can't weld to save my life). My chief interests would be to shed the unnecessary bits, swap forks/wheels, and add some drop/crash protection.

I may temporarily forgo the fork swap, though. According to some of jdrocks posts on the versys forum, you can easily make a substantially different bike by simply installing 19/17 wheels.

My goal is to build something comparable in weight/capability to an F650 twin.
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:59 AM   #1347
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That's true, but I don't need the extra HP. Having a standard seating position and DRZ fork compatibility will simplify things a bit (I can't weld to save my life). My chief interests would be to shed the unnecessary bits, swap forks/wheels, and add some drop/crash protection.

I may temporarily forgo the fork swap, though. According to some of jdrocks posts on the versys forum, you can easily make a substantially different bike by simply installing 19/17 wheels.

My goal is to build something comparable in weight/capability to an F650 twin.
I swapped forks, wheels, suspension on my Ninja 650r with no welding other than making the kickstand longer.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:10 AM   #1348
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This thread is giving me all sorts of bad ideas.
i thought that was the reason the ADV admin people started this section of the forum, confine us all down in here so we can pass around a bunch of bad ideas and not infect the general inmate population...sort of like the plague.

fun build, go for it.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:19 AM   #1349
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The Ninja 650R is nearly the same bike but with more power and street suspension.
the only advantages in starting with the ER6/650R is the cop motor, and the fact that they're more easily found cheap.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:32 AM   #1350
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...I may temporarily forgo the fork swap, though. According to some of jdrocks posts on the versys forum, you can easily make a substantially different bike by simply installing 19/17 wheels.

My goal is to build something comparable in weight/capability to an F650 twin.
yes, the 19" wheel makes a big difference, and the DL wheel swap is easy. as you know, 19/17 spoke wheels are available for the Versys too, bolt right on, so that's always an option.

make a few changes to the Versys, you'll have a very reliable bike that will run with the F650 at a fraction of the cost.
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