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Old 04-03-2012, 12:10 PM   #62386
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If I wanted an over-weight Dual Sport, complicated by water cooling I woulda bought a XT660Z Tenere.

No bike with a low front fender should be called a Dual Sport! IMO
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:27 PM   #62387
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So, i just finished all the mods I wanted to do on my 2000 DR that I picked up in January. last one was exhaust, intake, and jet kit. Got a GSXR pipe, short non-titanium version, along with Jesse's mid-pipe and stock header. Have K&N filter, with top of air box removed. Got dynojet kit from jesse, and installed 160 jet. Fuel screw was about 2 turns out, which i changed to 2.25 before leaving work today as it was running a slight bit rough. 2.25 was better.

My setup before all this was stock carb with aftermarket fuel screw (not sure how many turns out it was), stock airbox and filter, stock header, unknown aftermarket slip on with integral mid-pipe.

I ran out of fuel on primary after 70 miles (with screw 2 turns out for 65 of those miles). Really surprised me as before i was getting 95-105 on primary. Switched to reserve and found nearest gas station. Filled up and it was 72 miles on 2.5 gallons, filled up to the bottom of the filler neck. Putting mileage around 29 mpg. I was getting around 40 mph before. This is pretty much all slab right now, varrying from 35 to 60 mph, commuting to work.

So i figured i would lose a bit of mileage, but not a 30% drop. Is this normal, or if not, any ideas how to improve this? I see people talking about mid to high 40s on here, so figuring something ain't right.

Thanks much.
What about the Needle? You haven't mentioned it at all. Most important element. Get the Dyno jet needle: #3138.002 (US model)
If you still have the stock needle ... then THERE is your problem.

When you say "air box top removed" ?? How did you do that? Normally, a section of the air box top is cut. I would follow the "Jesse template". It works. If you have, for some unknown reason, removed the air box side cover ... put it back on.

I'm not a K&N fan but I doubt that's your issue.

Try this:
Main: 155 (DJ jet)
Needle: 3rd clip down from top
Pilot fuel/air screw: One turn out.

Having the Pilot fuel/air screw out too far wastes A LOT of fuel. Turn it IN and lean it out. Sure, it will run a bit rough at idle but your fuel economy will be MUCH BETTER.

Good luck!
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:45 PM   #62388
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Anyway, this is my first post here. Just finishing my DR minor 'got-to do' things. Converting over from a LOOOOOOOOOOONG string of XR-600, 400, 250 CR250 single-track enduro run. After 10,000 miles on those I'm liking this DR.
Welcome to DR madness! I'm a long time Stonyford/Fouts Springs rider, lots of JackHammer finisher pins. Retired from competition now (B rider). I still ride up there from time to time ... or over at Middlecreek. Love the Foresthill area. Awesome!

What sort of riding do you intend to do with your DR650? Dual Sport, Travel, dirt? All of the above? Post some pics of your bike as you get some mods done.
I've had a few Hondas too: XL600R, XR400 (baja kit) XR250. My race bikes were mostly YZ250 two strokes (enduro-ized). Current dirt bike (old mans bike) is a WR250F and CRF230F.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:26 PM   #62389
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No bike with a low front fender should be called a Dual Sport! IMO
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:09 PM   #62390
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Agreed .

Easy fix though...
Is that a Decepticon?
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:09 PM   #62391
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Well, after approx 15k miles my DR decided to spring a leak! I got oil everywhere! I was riding a lot of dirt roads Sunday which caused the dirt to stick to my engine drawing my attention. I checked all the oil lines, cooler, valve adjustment covers and they are all dry. Leaves the cam chain adjuster and/or base gasket (which is the metal multi-layer one). I was thinking cam chain adjuster but I have oil on the front of the cylinder fins! Could the wind blow it around everywhere? I guess I am going to have to clean it good- fire it up and drink beer until I see a leak!

I am going to have to fix this- I can't point at oil leaking H.D.s and laugh when mine is also marking its territory!
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:16 PM   #62392
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Is that a Decepticon?
It is!...DRs rollout!!
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:15 PM   #62393
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Just wanted to say thanks again for the advice on the starter motor.

I was thinking 'worst case' and got stressed/not thinking clearly. The brushes were short and the metal bracket they are encased in was rusty. A little elbow grease and sanding and the DR was up and running again.

Sold it this morning. Finished with the South American leg.

What is the availability of DR650s in Africa?
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:30 PM   #62394
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Its Starting to Come Together - CDT Montana to New Mexico 2012

Greeting Fellow Inmates!
Today I bought a Montana GPS to add to the DR for my CDT ride this summer. Until I bought the GPS and loaded big dog's route on it, the ride did not seem real. I almost have the DR farkled beyond belief and have everything I need to go. While it is still several months to go yet it seem real now. Oh I bought a rippin camera also, Sony HX9. I have been reading this forum since Christmas 2010 and though this forum this ride is going to become reality. Thanks to all for all I have learned about my DR, so I have just enough knowledge to get out there and get in trouble! I still have a lot to do before I go, but it seems real now. Thanks Roger
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:47 PM   #62395
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Agreed .

Easy fix though...
Yamaha was so nice not to import this baby..................saved me thousands of dollars with my DR purchase last summer. Got tired of waiting and like many here made the DR fit my need easily.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:50 PM   #62396
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Welcome to DR madness! I'm a long time Stonyford/Fouts Springs rider, lots of JackHammer finisher pins. Retired from competition now (B rider). I still ride up there from time to time ... or over at Middlecreek. Love the Foresthill area. Awesome!

What sort of riding do you intend to do with your DR650? Dual Sport, Travel, dirt? All of the above? Post some pics of your bike as you get some mods done.
I've had a few Hondas too: XL600R, XR400 (baja kit) XR250. My race bikes were mostly YZ250 two strokes (enduro-ized). Current dirt bike (old mans bike) is a WR250F and CRF230F.

Thank yeeeew for the welcome. .. and you coming from a 'S'ford area & F'Hill past, it makes me all warm & fuzzy inside. Not a lot of people know about ForestHill. .the pine tree meca of that part of the mountain. I like the knarly twisty stuff offered in a marked trail setting. ( Allowed for a testing/practice blast if by one's lonesome since usually somebody would come by before you had to start knawing on your own arm for food if you grenaded something.).

Like you and no doubt others here, 'Had a lot of bikes'.. Broke a lot of stuff. Fixed a lot. Lost a lot of parts from smacking Terra-Firma. Learned why bark-busters should be about level with flight to actually DO SOMETHING when that friggin lil' branch comes by when WOT and you're not looking at it. (Yeah, had to convince friends that those guards are MUCH more appreciated protecting the fingers rather than that brake lever. . . well, they had to be convinced, since it was their fingers. .. geese, I TOLD them to not angle them so far downward like the levers).

Being a 'duro guy, you'll appreciate my taking a bunch of moto guys to F'Hill's knarliest loops just to see them sucK up their seat covers. Got tired of them making fun of me for not doing a moto-tripple or long doubles. Damn, I get altitude sickness when up that high. My 94' CR250 is/was set for single track. Plush, torqued via pipe & heavy flywheel, Scott's damper, etc. Probably burn in hell for " OK GUYS. . .DON'T LOOK DOWN. . LOOK 30 FEET OVER THERE . .OK ? ? ! THE TRAIL IS A FRIGGIN FREEWAY ! ! 18 INCHES WIDE AT LEAST !!
THAT'S A 100FT DROP-OFF, SO DON'T LOOK DOWN !! !! Yep.. . .hell for sure.

So, a dr650 ?? Well, I did a little test with a friends DR650. Sprung, valved, piped, jettted. Spot-on set-up. Did a loop route at F'Hill with a bunch of bud's. One lap with my CR250 (first .. where I was friggin awesome w/my WFO roosting, high jumping, ditch making, fishtailing, Rodney Smith wannabe) . . . .Then did a lap with the low cruising plush, on-the-ground mostly comfy thumper. Took about thirty minutes. Got back into SugarPine staging, and WTF ? ? "NO WAY IN HELL, bro's" ! The crowd said a minute FASTER on the DR650. ! ! Huh ? Yep. The watch on my dash said so too. Legend in my own mind or not, the timer doesn't lie. I got tired on the CR after twenty minutes. . .the DR was really friendly with that torque hooking up. Geese. I'm such a wuss. In front of a bunch of people too. AND MY FRIEND RODE THERE ON HIS DR. Man, that hurt. He had plates. Sheese.

So, got a DR650 now. When I figure out pics, will post. Did some welding.

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Old 04-03-2012, 06:04 PM   #62397
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Well, after approx 15k miles my DR decided to spring a leak! I got oil everywhere! I was riding a lot of dirt roads Sunday which caused the dirt to stick to my engine drawing my attention. I checked all the oil lines, cooler, valve adjustment covers and they are all dry. Leaves the cam chain adjuster and/or base gasket (which is the metal multi-layer one). I was thinking cam chain adjuster but I have oil on the front of the cylinder fins! Could the wind blow it around everywhere? I guess I am going to have to clean it good- fire it up and drink beer until I see a leak!

I am going to have to fix this- I can't point at oil leaking H.D.s and laugh when mine is also marking its territory!
I would bet it's the CCT gasket, the oil runs down to the front when it sits, making you think it's the base gasket. This happened on my 03, FYI the gasket is a bitch to get off the jug.

I didn't even use a new gasket, used Permatex Moto Seal 1, and let it sit over night to cure.

If you have never had a CCT out before, make sure you follow the proper procedures
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:07 PM   #62398
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So, got a DR650 now. When I figure out pics, will post. Did some welding.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:31 PM   #62399
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So, a dr650 ?? Well, I did a little test with a friends DR650. Sprung, valved, piped, jettted. Spot-on set-up. Did a loop route at F'Hill with a bunch of bud's. One lap with my CR250 (first .. where I was friggin awesome w/my WFO roosting, high jumping, ditch making, fishtailing, Rodney Smith wannabe) . . . .Then did a lap with the low cruising plush, on-the-ground mostly comfy thumper. Took about thirty minutes. Got back into SugarPine staging, and WTF ? ? "NO WAY IN HELL, bro's" ! The crowd said a minute FASTER on the DR650. ! ! Huh ? Yep. The watch on my dash said so to. Legend in my own mind or not, the timer doesn't lie. I got tired on the CR after twenty minutes. . .the DR was really friendly with that torque hooking up. Geese. I'm such a wuss. In front of a bunch of people to. AND MY FRIEND RODE THERE ON HIS DR. Man, that hurt. He had plates. Sheese.

So, got a DR650 now. When I figure out pics, will post. Did some welding.
Funny, I'm kinda thinking the DR has become my go-to bike and the Husky TE450 only comes out when I'm positively going gonzo. I can ride the DR faster on everything other than technical singletrack just because it is so forgiving.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:35 PM   #62400
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Almost time to renew my cycle insurance.. just curious what other DR650 owners are paying.

I'm currently with Progressive here in Michigan and have the following on my 96 DR650

Bodily Injury Liabililty: $20K/40K
Property Damage Liability: $10K
$1K Comp/Collision Deduct
$3000 Accessory Coverage.

Total comes to $93/year, but living in the great State of Michigan where we have a high percentage of uninsured motorists an additional fee of $145! is added on to the premium to help those that are uninsured :s_mad

Thus a total of $238/year for the DR650..

What you guys paying? Anyone in Michigan know if if there is a way around the MCCA fee, especially if I am already paying the MCCA fee on my car insurance?
I was just in a low speed wreck that broke my leg. Hospital bill was $120,000. Bodily injury 20k per person won't cover much. If I ever ride again my insurance will cover myself for at least 100k
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