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Old 04-11-2012, 10:33 AM   #961
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The 'don't fill it up' argument always gets trotted out....it's not just the weight but the bulk of both the tank and the gas in the tank (however much that is) sloshing around. I'd sooner just carry Rotopax's so I can decide how much and where to carry them as well as, more importantly, WHEN to carry them.

I see this argument ALL the time about a bike (whatever manu). Very very few people NEED the extra range a huge tank will provide so I really don't know why so many claim it's an issue. Where gas is plentiful, I look forward to a quick gas break - I don't WANT to ride 500 miles in one go. Some do, I don't (I don't think it's particularly safe either).
+1. While I love the fact that Safari is making a large tank for those who need it, I rarely find myself in a situation in which I don't have access to gas. I'm tempted by the large tank out of sheer laziness -- one of the things I liked about my Wee-Strom was that when I was out on rides with friends on sportbikes, I could spend every other gas stop just hanging out, or going inside to pee, or getting a cup of coffee, or whatever, because between that bike's tank size and fuel efficiency, I only needed to fill up half as often. I miss that a bit with the Tiger.

But the only place I've ever ridden that I needed to go beyond the Tiger's range between gas stops was the Trans-Labrador Highway (specifically, the new section between Goose Bay and Port Hope Simpson, 260 miles). That was on the Wee-Strom, which managed it on one tank, though I carried a spare gallon with me just in case. If I do that trip again, I'll just carry a couple of Rotopax containers on the Tiger.

Like Merc, I have an XR650L with a Clarke tank (that bike really needs it -- range on the stock tank was like 90 miles). I wouldn't even consider not filling it up all the way because estimating range would become impossible. If I put a Safari tank on my Tiger, I'd feel the same way.

But if I regularly rode long distances in places with few gas options, then yeah, I would definitely want the Safari tank.

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Old 04-11-2012, 11:59 AM   #962
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The advantage of a custom tank is that you don't have to find a place for the Rotopax.
It wasn't terribly difficult. Wolfman provided an easy solution. I've considered getting a second Rotopax plate from him and doubling up on the left side and running a single on the right. Still ends up balanced and gives me an extra 3gal. And I can still mount the soft bags over the top of them or just run a big dry bag on the tray or pillion.
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #963
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200 miles to a tank is not enough. I get pissed when I have to stop and get gas after what I believe to be a short ride. I drive 35,000 miles a year and am very used to long range rides. I ride with a GSA and wish that I had that range! Why the argument to fill it up all the way or not? Just fill it up, problem solved. There is not enough room on the bike to stash 10 or so gallons of gas and you still have to stop and put it in the tank. I just want to ride.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:08 AM   #964
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Some places don't have a petrol pump every 100 miles... some very beautiful places, famous places I want to see on my Tiger.

Even having a longer main tank range, the rotopax or fuel bladders will come out when it comes to making it possible to journey across those beautiful, remote, and sparsely-populated -- and completely fabulous -- landscapes.

I want the range because it takes me one step closer to a dream.

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Old 04-12-2012, 05:14 AM   #965
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There seems to be some long winded arguments against needing a larger tank. Why bother? If you don't want it don't buy it, I don't see the need to proclaim how unimportant it is. I could have used more range just last night as struggled to find a gas station with my mileage counter reading -----. It was my own poor planning, but a few more gallons would have gotten me home without a third gas stop. I like the thought of any new product for the tiger. Would I buy one? I would have last night that's for damn sure. Jury is out till we see how it looks and how much it costs. Bring it on.
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:20 AM   #966
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Just explaining why it isn't right for ME. Different strokes. If it works for you or others, great!
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:17 AM   #967
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I too understand the gripes. Even riding around in well fuelled areas, I find it a pain to keep filling the tank. Never mind on an adventure of sorts.

But I can also appreciate how much a an aesthetic downgrade a clear tank, or a colour plastic tank would be. After all the original tank is the only painted piece on the bike. (aside from the beak). Would it not be possible to have the tank professionally painted to match factory paint? Or are we not there yet with technology when it comes to painting plastics?
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:20 AM   #968
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I too understand the gripes. Even riding around in well fuelled areas, I find it a pain to keep filling the tank. Never mind on an adventure of sorts.

But I can also appreciate how much a an aesthetic downgrade a clear tank, or a colour plastic tank would be. After all the original tank is the only painted piece on the bike. (aside from the beak). Would it not be possible to have the tank professionally painted to match factory paint? Or are we not there yet with technology when it comes to painting plastics?
The tanks on my Speed Triple and Sprint are both plastic. That said, I am going to assume the Safari tanks are more like the tanks on my Husky and XR and if so, I very much doubt they can be painted - even stickers eventually fall off due to gas leaching through the plastic.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:25 AM   #969
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I too understand the gripes. Even riding around in well fuelled areas, I find it a pain to keep filling the tank. Never mind on an adventure of sorts.

But I can also appreciate how much a an aesthetic downgrade a clear tank, or a colour plastic tank would be. After all the original tank is the only painted piece on the bike. (aside from the beak). Would it not be possible to have the tank professionally painted to match factory paint? Or are we not there yet with technology when it comes to painting plastics?
like he said above. you can't paint plastic gas tanks because of gas dissipation. You can use professional vinyl stickers/graphics though.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:28 AM   #970
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Now if they made an ABS or polycarbonate shell for it that could be color matched, that might be pretty cool.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:50 AM   #971
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like he said above. you can't paint plastic gas tanks because of gas dissipation. You can use professional vinyl stickers/graphics though.
A vinyl wrap could work well, you may be on to something.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:26 AM   #972
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A vinyl wrap could work well, you may be on to something.
I've never heard of any vinyl or stickers adhering to the tanks for any length of time UNLESS they have masses of holes in them. Eventually, they all start bubbling. Not even sure the ones with holes in them last that long either...
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:46 AM   #973
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I've never heard of any vinyl or stickers adhering to the tanks for any length of time UNLESS they have masses of holes in them. Eventually, they all start bubbling. Not even sure the ones with holes in them last that long either...
They make them for dirt bikes and guys run them on the ktm tanks all the time. yes they have holes in them.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:00 AM   #974
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They make them for dirt bikes and guys run them on the ktm tanks all the time. yes they have holes in them.
That I know, you can get them for the XR Clarke tanks (among many others) but I have still heard bad storied about them bubbling, even with the holes in them.

For me, it's not an issue since I hate stickers anyway and both my Clarke tanks are see-through which is so useful (on those bikes). On the Tigger, maybe not so useful if the fuel gauge still works (why wouldn't it ?) or do as I do, and use the trip meter anyway.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #975
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I see this a lot. Especially with the new service bulletin tune. My mileage went to shit after it was installed. I think some people really fail to grasp just how desolate some places in this world are. Places like where I ride nearly every weekend. Very easy to plan a route with 300+ miles between fuel stops. If I've got the cash, I'll be putting one on.
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