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Old 04-18-2012, 04:08 AM   #12271
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
I know it seems to be the current "in thing" but at 800 for the jacket and 600 for the pants? That's Rukka territory. And for something that might get ripped to shreds on the massive brambles we get over here. Not for me. YMMV.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:39 AM   #12272
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I know it seems to be the current "in thing" but at 800 for the jacket and 600 for the pants? That's Rukka territory. And for something that might get ripped to shreds on the massive brambles we get over here. Not for me. YMMV.
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I have a couple bits of Klim gear and it's good gear but that is just ridiculous prices for stuff that, well, ain't that ground-breaking (despite what the fanbois will say).
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:40 AM   #12273
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That will increase the exhaust flow but not necessarily increase the volumetric efficiency of the engine beyond what the engine could otherwise pump.
Some of the best tuners have been able achieve volumetric efficiencies greater that 1 in a race bike, its not not easy to achieve and those motors wouldn't last very long in a street bike.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:46 AM   #12274
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Has anyone seen this? I can't read it but I'm sure some of you can. I have been looking at the pictures for the last several weeks.

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Old 04-18-2012, 07:29 AM   #12275
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
I have a Klim Latitude jacket - I love it. I wear it with some rukka pants. I find the quality to be comparable. The Klim is much more stout/stiff than the rukka but very comfortable, and I have ridden it in some serious rain with no problems whatsoever.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:51 AM   #12276
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
Klim is great gear, but hardly generic it has more branding than BMW and Triumph combined - there is no angle someone can view you from and not see at least two name logos.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:01 AM   #12277
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:06 AM   #12278
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Haha, I have BMW gear for my off road riding, triumph jacket for my street riding, and currently don't own either! I think I'll stick to generic brands from now on. Anyone have experience with Klim?
I bought the Badlands Pro. I wear the jacket literally daily -- minus the odd week where I miss a day and don't leave the house even just to ride with no other purpose, for the past 4 months or so. Whenever they were available in Oz, I was waiting for mine and got the set. I wear the pants less often, for organised off-road or in a couple cases, when it's pissing down and I still want to be somewhere else. Damned if I'm getting in a freakin CAR just because there's a thunderstorm going on...

Initial impressions are very good. It's water-proof 100% so far including Serious rainfall -- I wish I could say the same about my stupid helmet though -- It's about 3 seasons itself with nothing layered inside -- serious riding should be layered anyway though. I wear merino thin layer stuff for all day esp when it's going to be in the hills and coolish, but with all the vents closed, and those cool wrist seals with the thumb holes in place, you don't feel the cool until it's a significantly cool situation, like 110kms on a highway (nominal, ahem) and night time temp of 12C ambient the other day, yeah I felt some cool spots where the wind managed to push the shell against my biceps for example.

Pants are pretty great too -- they're made for standing up and are nice and long with wide legs for boots, leather panels on the inside to be nice on the bike and handle heat better, and the pads site comfortably so you don't notice them whilst riding. Huge vents when standing mean you can feel a strangely naked feeling when the wind blows across your thigh. And you essentially are -- the vent is from your ass to your knee basically -- reach in and yep that's what your mom and dad gave ya, behind a thin veil of mesh. I like that they are long and fit well over the Sidi's and have decent waterproof pockets.

Another thing I like (bad things coming too lol) is the way they are sewn to fit a rider not a mannequin. So they naturally are bent for riding. Probably this is not unique but it's noticeably more than my bespoke leather jacket (Mars leathers in Melb) which has a bit of the same thing -- the Klim hangs funny and the ams are trying to reach out a lot, when it's on you it fits really nice, keeps a bubble around me so unless wind compresses it I don't feel the outside much.

Bad things include the neck is a bit wrong in that the material (gore pro shell) on the outside and the stiff part, doesn't seem to work together well with the tricot snuggly lining part they put on the inside, so the stiffer material cvan be felt to be "rolling over" or rolling down inside the tricot. So when I hang it up I have to unfold it, it's a but fiddly. Also the neck is the weak point in the whole thing when it comes to waterproofing and weatherproofing, since it just stops. I use a little kathmandu neck thing to keep cold winds out but when it's raining hard the overspray / mist can tough the chin -- not that it matters much cause the visor's leaking and damn I left the top vent open too and... grr.

Another peeve I have is that the mesh pockets inside the jacket are soft and ... malleable? in the mesh -- they should have included some stiffening strip on the openeings IMO to help them open and close with one hand, and keep their shape just as they started, sometimes the zips are a bit hard to operate whilst riding.

Rounding out my bad points is the claimed "support for a hydration bladder" is pretty non-existant. I do hide one in the bottom of the jacket, hening the lil kidney belt thing, but mine's a Geiger and it pressurizes up and doesn't sit well at all. And there's no other place to put it but the bottom, so the drinking tube has far less reach than normal and it's popping out in front of my chest rather than lying down nicely. I could put the bladder in the bum bag puch along the rear but there's no routing for the drinking tube -- I'd have to cut it or perhaps rig something outside but that'd suck more than what I have going now.

I mean to write them and ask about it too, if I learn something better I'll pass it on.

If you have any specific questions about badlands pro I would be happy to answer as best I Can.

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Old 04-18-2012, 08:11 AM   #12279
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I know it seems to be the current "in thing" but at 800 for the jacket and 600 for the pants? That's Rukka territory. And for something that might get ripped to shreds on the massive brambles we get over here. Not for me. YMMV.
And from what I have seen, it's not worth it, either - my personal opinion, YMMV.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:51 AM   #12280
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I have a couple bits of Klim gear and it's good gear but that is just ridiculous prices for stuff that, well, ain't that ground-breaking (despite what the fanbois will say).

It's damn good Merc... Perhaps not that ground breaking or uniquely good, since I've not tried heaps of others. But it's very nice, waterproof and tough, reflective with lots of waterproof pockets. I know the people who can't afford the money or think it's too dear like to say "flavour of the month" (that was last time as I recall lol) or call me a fanboy but I'm really far too old to be a fanboy and probably just suffer from being willing to pay more for things I like. But it's good I think, on it;s own merits.
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:56 AM   #12281
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It's damn good Merc... Perhaps not that ground breaking or uniquely good, since I've not tried heaps of others. But it's very nice, waterproof and tough, reflective with lots of waterproof pockets. I know the people who can't afford the money or think it's too dear like to say "flavour of the month" (that was last time as I recall lol) or call me a fanboy but I'm really far too old to be a fanboy and probably just suffer from being willing to pay more for things I like. But it's good I think, on it;s own merits.
Ive heard good things too. I would never pay it but some will. Here is a proven test of excellence.
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I know the people who can't afford the money or think it's too dear like to say "flavour of the month" (that was last time as I recall lol) or call me a fanboy but I'm really far too old to be a fanboy and probably just suffer from being willing to pay more for things I like.
It's possible, yes. I'm sure can afford the stuff - I just don't want to. I'm used to the high quality gear I was able to buy in Germany for fairly affordable prices and what I find in the US is just outrageously priced. Being that Motoport, Klim, or whatnot. I'm willing to pay for quality, but I'm not willing to bend over for it ...

For me at least it's easy, I'll buy more gear next time I'm in Germany visiting parents ...

For the Triumph stuff: it plain doesn't fit me so far. The Adventure gear seems to be tailored for short and wide people. I could use it as a tent, but not as a jacket ...
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:11 AM   #12283
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It's damn good Merc... Perhaps not that ground breaking or uniquely good, since I've not tried heaps of others. But it's very nice, waterproof and tough, reflective with lots of waterproof pockets. I know the people who can't afford the money or think it's too dear like to say "flavour of the month" (that was last time as I recall lol) or call me a fanboy but I'm really far too old to be a fanboy and probably just suffer from being willing to pay more for things I like. But it's good I think, on it;s own merits.
There's no doubt it's damn good - I've seen most of their range in person and it really is nice stuff. My point was it's way over-priced and, to me at least, a little too garish. It's certainly not out of my price range but as I say, it's not the cost, it's the value I question...

As ever, YMMV, I sincerely hope you enjoy your gear
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It's possible, yes. I'm sure can afford the stuff - I just don't want to. I'm used to the high quality gear I was able to buy in Germany for fairly affordable prices and what I find in the US is just outrageously priced. Being that Motoport, Klim, or whatnot. I'm willing to pay for quality, but I'm not willing to bend over for it ...

For me at least it's easy, I'll buy more gear next time I'm in Germany visiting parents ...

For the Triumph stuff: it plain doesn't fit me so far. The Adventure gear seems to be tailored for short and wide people. I could use it as a tent, but not as a jacket ...
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I have seen the Triumph stuff at the local dealer and it seems very nice but I have a severe aversion to wearing bike-branded clothing such as this to be honest. I know, stupid but there ya go.
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I have seen the Triumph stuff at the local dealer and it seems very nice but I have a severe aversion to wearing bike-branded clothing such as this to be honest. I know, stupid but there ya go.
I see your point. My problem here was the only stuff that actually fits me halfway is the BMW gear. I could take my wife with me into a Roadcrafter or similar ...
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