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Old 04-24-2012, 12:22 PM   #1351
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No hoses or bearings needed replaced. (They were Japanese).
In your opinion. Some people are pretty anal about anything old and rubber, and any old fluid.


Also, you still fail to 'get' it. People aren't cross-shopping the NC700X against a pristine, garage-queen 90's bike.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:38 PM   #1352
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In your opinion. Some people are pretty anal about anything old and rubber, and any old fluid.


Also, you still fail to 'get' it. People aren't cross-shopping the NC700X against a pristine, garage-queen 90's bike.
Then I would buy the automatic, with panniers, to hide the 10 inch gap from the rear tire to the fender.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:58 PM   #1353
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Then I would buy the automatic, with panniers, to hide the 10 inch gap from the rear tire to the fender.
The stock bags look just big enough to hide that gap, like they were designed to do it, as opposed to being designed to carry anything. They look really small, like useless small, in any pics I've seen. If I do get this bike, and there is still a chance that I will, I would get some aftermarket bags. Looks like H/B is making some but I can't find any pics of them.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:29 PM   #1354
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No, no no. The point was, in the 650-750cc range, for 3 or 4 grand, near pristine bikes are not unusual. I've had them. No hoses or bearings needed replaced. (They were Japanese).
Hoses, master cylinder rebuilds, and caliper rebuilds required. All rubber exposed to brake fluid on a 20 year old bike is on borrowed time. I don't care who makes it. I know there are those who will insist I'm full of it, because their 1988 yamazuki brake system works just fine on the original parts. Until the moment it doesn't, of course. Just do me a favor and don't ride behind me. I don't want you pushing me to the scene of the accident.

I can't count the number of both cars and bikes I've seen with failed rubber hoses and caliper piston seals over the last 30 years.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:36 PM   #1355
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3 or 4 grand will get you a real nice motorcycle made in the 90's with 3 or 4 grand left over to buy fuel with. Doesn't that fill the bill you're talking about??
Um I could buy a new Scahs Madass as well for sweet FA and get good fuel economy and be Metrosexual as well to boot.

But we are looking at New VS New. It's fair enough that you can get cool old bikes cheap, if you find one that was a midlife purchase with 200 miles on it even better, then have the time to remove and replace when necessary. I did that myself when I was younger and it was very rewarding. Learnt a lot about bikes and carbs and points and fixing things I thought I had fixed and things you had to make fit because they donlt make them anymore and specialist machine shops and ....If you have the time it is great to sit around with like minded people sip beer talk shit and tinker.

I don't have the time anymore, so I prefer to start from new(ish) and extend the life of the bike as long as possible until I can pass it into someone with more time.

The NC's look like they are nice slow revving long lasting bikes, just like the R60 BMW's I used to bag out when I was young. You should be able to pick up a good one in 15 years. You have to have new ones coming in so that you can get one later.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:31 AM   #1356
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Um I could buy a new Sachs Madass as well for sweet FA and get good fuel economy and be Metrosexual as well to boot.

But we are looking at New VS New. It's fair enough that you can get cool old bikes cheap, if you find one that was a midlife purchase with 200 miles on it even better, then have the time to remove and replace when necessary. I did that myself when I was younger and it was very rewarding. Learnt a lot about bikes and carbs and points and fixing things I thought I had fixed and things you had to make fit because they don't make them anymore and specialist machine shops and ....If you have the time it is great to sit around with like minded people sip beer talk shit and tinker.

I don't have the time anymore, so I prefer to start from new(ish) and extend the life of the bike as long as possible until I can pass it into someone with more time.

The NC's look like they are nice slow revving long lasting bikes, just like the R60 BMW's I used to bag out when I was young. You should be able to pick up a good one in 15 years. You have to have new ones coming in so that you can get one later.
Y'all forget, my primary bitch, was about the "styling" of these new bikes!
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:35 AM   #1357
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:05 AM   #1358
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Y'all forget, my primary bitch, was about the "styling" of these new bikes!
Buy a W800 then. The looks will cost you 20-30MPG
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:25 AM   #1359
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:45 AM   #1360
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Y'all forget, my primary bitch, was about the "styling" of these new bikes!


Everyone has there own taste in style, myself I think it looks pretty good the way it is. I do have concerns with the seat being a two piece design though. Also better wind protection would be nice.
I tend to ride in all temps, unless ice or snow is present.


There are changes I would make in styling also, but they would be for function not looks.
This would be another tool that I use, not a fashion statement


I've told a friend of mine. If Honda made a bike like my GL1200 with 3 more inches from the seat to pegs, with a 750cc size engine that got great fuel mileage I would be happy.
Well this looks about as close as I will get. I hope the seat to peg height is enough for my comfort.


The fuel consumption on this bike looks pretty good, and that is one of the reasons I am considering this bike.
I have been chatting with several owners of this bike and the fuel mileage seems to be around 65-74 mpg traveling 75 mph.
Compare those numbers against any bike out there!
Check out http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/nc700x
http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/suzuki/dl650


I think you will find real in world riding this little bike does a great job and beats about any interstate capable bike out there for the money.


I find it disgusting my Goldwing weighing in at around 800 pounds gets lower fuel mileage than my 3300 pound TDI Jetta. I have managed 53.6 mpg U.S. out of that Jetta running 65mph before though.
Best fuel mileage on my Goldwing was about 47 mpg running about 45-55 mph, I average about 39 mpg.


I know you can get a great bike used for less money.(Like the DL650) and they do return good fuel mileage when ridden easy, but they are also top heavy. My Goldwing is a lot heavier, but feels a lot lighter than than my old Suzuki GS1100.


I remember my Suzuki GS1100E with 32 pounds of gas in the tank was a top heavy monster.
It did get pretty good fuel mileage though, considering that I could bring the front wheel of the ground at 80 mph. Yup I had fun on that one!


This bike has answered a lot of problems that I have had with past bikes.


I don't think this is the perfect bike for me, but its a lot closer than most previous bikes.

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Old 04-25-2012, 07:45 AM   #1361
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:51 AM   #1362
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Buy a W800 then. The looks will cost you 20-30MPG
Why would I buy a new Honda, when I already have two cherry Honda Hawk Automatics? A 78 and a 79. See where I'm coming from?
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Old 04-25-2012, 07:57 AM   #1363
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Why would I buy a new Honda, when I already have two cherry Honda Hawk Automatics? A 78 and a 79. See where I'm coming from?
Not sure where you're coming from, but I'd guess you're posting from one of two or three couches on your front porch.
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:01 AM   #1364
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Not sure where you're coming from, but I'd guess you're posting from one of two or three couches on your front porch.
C'mon, you can do better than that!
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:05 AM   #1365
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C'mon, you can do better than that!
You a penguins fan? that opens up a lot of material.
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