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Old 04-28-2012, 04:28 PM   #2686
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the engine turns over yea but im also having issues kick starting. not sure why.... ive removed the carby for a good cleanout as this was overdue anyway, so as my shed is lacking decent lighting im going to put it back in when day breaks and see how i go.
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Could be the autodecompressor lobe is worn. I went through the same thing and I did everything you've done ie: electrical/carb/choke, or are thinking about doing to fix it. Starter wouldn't fire it and kickstarter eventually didn't help either.

Note that the autodecomp is a complete different thing than the manual.

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Old 04-28-2012, 11:20 PM   #2687
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you had to have done something wrong. you should never have to loosen that many turns to adjust the valves.

you need to go back in and try again. don't worry. it took me a couple tries the first time i adjusted mine. once you get it though, you will never have issues again.

to find TDC-C the trick i do is;

1) watch intake valves while turning the rear wheel. once the intake valves compress and begin to release, you know you are on the compression stroke.

2) remove plug (if you haven't already) and get a plastic drink straw. lower this into cylinder, then turn wheel again. you will see the straw rising into the air as the piston rises in the cylinder. stop when its at it's highest

3) double check by using the sight glass on the right side of the engine. you will see a timing mark inside the little sight glass if you are at the right spot. adjust as needed with the rear wheel.

4) check and make sure you can "wiggle" the rocker arms and no pressure is being placed on them. if you can't, you have done something wrong and need to go back to step 1.

now you can measure your gap. some people use the crank locking bolt at this point to keep the engine from turning. if you are changing your oil this is cool, if not you cant access it easily. just make sure you check to see that the timing mark is still good after, and before each adjustment.

take your time, double check everything. you will figure it out.

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Thanks a lot, Laramie.
I had already followed that procedure you suggest, but after trying again the result is still the same, tapping noise from the valves/elephants feet. Could it be de auto decomp kicks slightly in, therefore causing a false read?
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:15 AM   #2688
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oh and if i try to jump start from a car am i right in thinking to not have the car running and connect the neutral to the bikes frame? is this safe? dont want to risk anything here....
Correct.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:08 AM   #2689
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well, after cleaning out the carb i managed to kick her into life, and running fine. even after a while after shutting down the e starter turned it over but very weak. now after a ride its back to clicking..... gotta be a short somewhere.. but yet to find it.
thanks for the help tho ill let you know the seed of this annoying problem once i find it!

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Old 04-29-2012, 03:44 PM   #2690
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Has anyone ever removed the passenger pegs? Mine have tried to kill me a couple times, and they look fairly integral to the subframe of the 640A. Any input is appreciated.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:55 PM   #2691
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Has anyone ever removed the passenger pegs? Mine have tried to kill me a couple times, and they look fairly integral to the subframe of the 640A. Any input is appreciated.
nearly the first thing I did when I bought the bike 3 years ago. (removed pegs and brackets). No problems, but I did get the sub frame strengthened about two years ago.

I never thought they were integral to the subframe myself. (But my wife says I don't think a lot )
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:36 AM   #2692
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Has anyone ever removed the passenger pegs? Mine have tried to kill me a couple times, and they look fairly integral to the subframe of the 640A. Any input is appreciated.
I removed mine, since I dont like passengers and my box frames needed to be bent to work with them on. Its been over a year with no issues. Mine just hangs off the subframe and doesnt support anything.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:34 AM   #2693
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KTM 625 or 640 Steering Damper

Has anbody got a under the bar steering damper and mount they want to offload for a 625 SXC or adventure? I'm running a large tank and a over the bar mount seems to get in the way of the cap.

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Old 05-01-2012, 04:50 AM   #2694
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Has anyone ever removed the passenger pegs? Mine have tried to kill me a couple times, and they look fairly integral to the subframe of the 640A. Any input is appreciated.
I too don't think they're necessary, the 3 pieces my subframe was in when I got home from my last trip had nothing to do with them, however they do make great tiedown points for my panniers
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:39 AM   #2695
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ok, just to let yall know. i pulled out the starter today and brushes are finished. starter case had debri inside so tomorrow ill organise a temp solution for newies.
choke cable also dislodged/ busted hence the tricky kick start as she seems to like a wee bit of choke in the morning..
gone through all the wiring now and tidied up so fingers crossed i will be ready for a decent ride soon.

cheers all.

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Old 05-01-2012, 11:37 AM   #2696
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ok, just to let yall know. i pulled out the starter today and brushes are finished. starter case had debri inside so tomorrow ill organise a temp solution for newies.
choke cable also dislodged/ busted hence the tricky kick start as she seems to like a wee bit of choke in the morning..
gone through all the wiring now and tidied up so fingers crossed i will be ready for a decent ride soon.

cheers all.

steve
Contact Rick's Electric, they carry alot more than just the new motor and brush plate that they show on a search!
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:21 PM   #2697
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ok, just to let yall know. i pulled out the starter today and brushes are finished. starter case had debri inside so tomorrow ill organise a temp solution for newies.
choke cable also dislodged/ busted hence the tricky kick start as she seems to like a wee bit of choke in the morning..
gone through all the wiring now and tidied up so fingers crossed i will be ready for a decent ride soon.

cheers all.

steve
I had the local auto electrician measure up my old starter brushes & they found & fitted some car ones that were the same size. They are still going strong 50K km later.

Great to see someone selling new starter motors & parts for the LC4 online though, do Ricks ship internationally?

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Old 05-02-2012, 01:27 PM   #2698
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I had the local auto electrician measure up my old starter brushes & they found & fitted some car ones that were the same size. They are still going strong 50K km later.

Great to see someone selling new starter motors & parts for the LC4 online though, do Ricks ship internationally?

Cheers
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They are a top notch dealer with great customer service, I would think they would shipp all over ,but I dont know for sure
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:58 PM   #2699
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Does anyone know... on the dash of a adventure. what makes the light for the indicators (turn signals, low fuel light, etc).. if its LED or a filiment bulb,,,,,



also..

the FI light... anyone know where the corisponding plug is on the wire harness that isnt used?

Im looking to tap into it, and use it as a charging system monitor .. and utilize the FI light in the dash...

http://www.planet-equipment.com/ chargealert
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:06 PM   #2700
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Does anyone know... on the dash of a adventure. what makes the light for the indicators (turn signals, low fuel light, etc).. if its LED or a filiment bulb,,,,,



also..

the FI light... anyone know where the corisponding plug is on the wire harness that isnt used?

Im looking to tap into it, and use it as a charging system monitor .. and utilize the FI light in the dash...

http://www.planet-equipment.com/ chargealert
Well, first tell us what you got, so you get the right answers!

On my '99 the indicators are filiment bulbs that are soldered to pins and the vibrations break the solder, which is why I just converted mine to LEDs. Simple job, but havent looked into why the turnsignal indicator only works with the left turns and not the rights?! Thinking reverse polarity, but not sure yet.

FI as in Fuel Injection??? Is any LC4 Adventure fuel injected??
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