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Old 05-02-2012, 10:06 AM   #17581
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I looked through my manual and found nothing other than the piston circlips that look anything like it. I'm curious as to if the piston comes down far enough that the circlip could fall into the case. I'd think it'd have to since it was in good condition and the bike's not blowing smoke or burning oil.

Would the fiche have details that my manual doesn't have?
I admit I'm a little rusty at this anymore. Looking at the piston Ryman posted the way it
comes in at the wristpin casting a clip could just drop straight down into the crank case.




Does someone have a 650 piston to measure the clip hole size? That does look small for a
650.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:39 AM   #17582
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http://www.xr650r.us/fiche/

Here's a good link to fiche.
I notice on the piston assembly that the wrist pin clip is called out at 23mm which converts to .905"
This is much bigger than the part you have.
It must be something else.

If you look at the shift drum assembley there is a clip that measures 14mm. Could be this.
I also see this same clip on the kick start spindle.
Also check out the oil pump assembly. I see a small clip there. This might be an easy fix. I think the oil pump is accessible without splitting the case.

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Old 05-02-2012, 10:57 AM   #17583
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http://www.xr650r.us/fiche/

Here's a good link to fiche.
I notice on the piston assembly that the wrist pin clip is called out at 23mm which converts to .905"
This is much bigger than the part you have.
It must be something else.

If you look at the shift drum assembley there is a clip that measures 14mm. Could be this.
I also see this same clip on the kick start spindle.
Also check out the oil pump assembly. I see a small clip there. This might be an easy fix. I think the oil pump is accessible without splitting the case.
I think it looks like the oil pump thing. I'm going to go home and look, cuz I'd really prefer to take the 650 on this trip!
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:18 PM   #17584
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The rest makes me feel old.
You are old. Or, older than me at least.

But you can still out-ride people half your age.

I'm trying to plan an afternoon ride with Pilo in a week or two if you're interested . . .
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:21 PM   #17585
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Here's a pic of it. Sure looks like the culprit to me.


Part #12211-250-310
Available through RMAtv for $2
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-schematic/3

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Old 05-02-2012, 02:06 PM   #17586
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Kev I also have my little lightweight trailer if need be too. I have to pay it forward from borrowing MSH and pluric's trailers before I had mine. Tows behind my Volvo at 80 w no real loss of mileage so it would tow behind anything just fine I think...


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Old 05-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #17587
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hmmmm

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Here's a pic of it. Sure looks like the culprit to me.


Part #12211-250-310
Available through RMAtv for $2
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-schematic/3
It's not the circlip in the oil pump... That one is in there. I (not that) recently did clutch plates. maybe something in there? I'll go fishing.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:38 PM   #17588
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You are old. Or, older than me at least.

But you can still out-ride people half your age.

I'm trying to plan an afternoon ride with Pilo in a week or two if you're interested . . .


Weekdays are kinda hard for me right now. Markets heated up and the Boss actutally
expects me to earn the check.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #17589
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Maybe it just needs to be washed??
I know that always makes me feel better.


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Old 05-02-2012, 07:59 PM   #17590
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I looked through my manual and found nothing other than the piston circlips that look anything like it. I'm curious as to if the piston comes down far enough that the circlip could fall into the case. I'd think it'd have to since it was in good condition and the bike's not blowing smoke or burning oil.

Would the fiche have details that my manual doesn't have?
Im not a Honda guy, but ive never seen a piston pin retainer clip NOT do damage on the way out of a running motor.
Sometimes even the fiche doesnt show it all in exploded views.
If u bought it used it may have been there all along.
If it were me, which its not, Id check the obvious and if i couldnt find where it came from, Id run it.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:31 PM   #17591
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Hmmm. Maybe the broken off end of a clutch spring?

Maybe it just needs to be washed??
Bikini Bike Wash??

Got 1,100 miles worth of bugs on my ride, a cute lass cleaning my bike would be a fine thing. When's the next one hereabouts?
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:26 AM   #17592
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It's gonna be a southern Utah adventure! Next weekend! Don't miss the fun!


No woman or cow is safe!
I was told this would be Tenere friendly. I was even getting the bike set up
for no sidebags in case there was some fancy foot work needed.

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:19 AM   #17593
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I was told this would be Tenere friendly. I was even getting the bike set up
for no sidebags in case there was some fancy foot work needed.

I haven't studied the route yet cuz KevaGooroo is in charge of the planning. I think we're talking dirt roads and stuff. The tene should be fine.

Kev......you better pipe up if I'm giving bad info.

Edit: Since hick is not coming along, everyone is in charge of their own keys! (Hick I know you're lurking )
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:28 PM   #17594
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I was told this would be Tenere friendly. I was even getting the bike set up
for no wheels in case there was some fancy foot work needed.


Fixt......

What a beautiful morning ride...........hope youse 'tards have good weather next week.......and find Hicks keys........somebody...........
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:11 PM   #17595
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What a beautiful morning ride...............
While you were out dicking around I made a bunch of money.

You need to get your priorities straight. Well, one of us does.
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