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Old 05-04-2012, 04:59 AM   #1516
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It will be.
I'm glad to hear that, even though I'm not interested in it. More choices can only be a good thing.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:31 AM   #1517
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It's on the Honda website with pricing, so Honda USA thinks it's coming sometime.
http://powersports.honda.com/2012/nc700x/options.aspx

I'm not surprised some riders dislike it- Seems to me it's basically a Honda Jazz in motorcycle form; Cheap, basic, and functional. Let's hope it's as reliable. Personally, as a Vespa rider, I like it, and want a test ride.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:46 AM   #1518
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Damn .... ya'll will argue about anything!
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:42 AM   #1519
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A dullville with new plastic, still dull, parts bin design. The adventure motorcycle market is one of the fastest growing segments so Honda wants some of it. Unfortunately they are giving us a few new plastic pieces aimed to look like other adventure bikes, it is very disappointing. Over the past 10 years or so Honda more than any other japanese manufacturer has missed the boat with bike design for the US market. If you want to pose down the boulevard on a friday night on your pretend ADV plastic elephant then this is the motorcycle for you.
It is to adventure riding what the Mustang II 4 cylinder was to muscle cars. Honda should bow their corporate heads in shame, this is the best you can do?

While I agree with the basic sentiment of Honda going kinda loopy these past few years I would say that the judgement on the NC700X is a little bit off.

It would appear that even amongst the three models, they have a fair number of different non-sharing parts, and being that they are all a new, unique, clean sheet design with, as far as I can tell, no parts interchangeable between any other Honda ever made, (let alone a Deauville), I believe "parts bin" is really not appropriate.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:19 AM   #1520
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About the only new Honda that excites me today is the Dullville. I finally had a chance to fondle one at a local stealership and it was surprisingly comfortable, actually a nearly perfect fit for me. I'd have one of those as an urban commuter easily, maybe even as my next bike, keeping the Strom for the long stretches of gravel that coax me out of the city.
Not new, been available over there for years... and they've ceased bringing them to the USA.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:12 PM   #1521
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So should we start a pool weather there will be a 2013 N700X?

I say no. They'll sell a few. And that's it. These are motorcycles, not Honda Civics, they don't sell numbers based on practicality, unless there is some real fun backing it up. There are plenty of practical bikes that may have less MPG, but have a lot more fun.
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:53 PM   #1522
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I think it’ll sell in Europe. In the US & Canada? I’m thinking it might last a couple years, like the GL500-650 Silverwings, Pacific Coast, or GB500. Maybe, just maybe there’s a little niche for commuters, even here.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #1523
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Suzuki didn't think the SV-650 would sell very well in N. America.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #1524
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I think it’ll sell in Europe. In the US & Canada? I’m thinking it might last a couple years, like the GL500-650 Silverwings, Pacific Coast, or GB500. Maybe, just maybe there’s a little niche for commuters, even here.
In continental Europe, regular folks use scooters all the time. For those that want to upgrade to a bike with similar mpg and longer range, plus the cost-conscious commuters, it will sell imho.

The big issue here is the price of gas; a recent survey said the average family is now spending more on gas than on food.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:25 PM   #1525
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Damn .... ya'll will argue about anything!

No we don't!
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:31 PM   #1526
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I wonder how difficult it would be to turbocharge one of these things...


I dearly, dearly, loved my CX500Turbo!
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:34 PM   #1527
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I like "parts bin specials." A lot more than unique, one-offs, that last a year or two and then you can never find parts for the thing ever again. Actually, I think more bikes could be created this way at lower cost. I like what Kawasaki has done with the 650 motor in the Ninja and the Versys. Two different bikes for different customers, but the same basic mechanicals. I'd love to see some of the single-cylider dirt bike and dual sport engines used for creating interesting street bikes, like a Kawasaki or Honda or Suzuki 650 single.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:43 PM   #1528
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In continental Europe, regular folks use scooters all the time. For those that want to upgrade to a bike with similar mpg and longer range, plus the cost-conscious commuters, it will sell imho.

The big issue here is the price of gas; a recent survey said the average family is now spending more on gas than on food.
+1,

Biggest growing segment is scooters where I live. People are looking at ways of saving money after paying way too much for houses and getting themselves way too far in debt.

Scooters offer some form of protection for the "office gear". These bikes also offer some storage for the "over gear" that doesn't have to be dealt with at work as well.

Been there done that. A "recreational vehicle" just doesn't really cut it as an all rounder and a 125 scooter doesn't either.

You can get a 250 to make this kind of power, true, but it is a really draining experience if you have to sit on a high revving gear shifting high strung 250 for hours a day.

In a previous life, having to commute on freeways, urban gridlock, up hills and having to deal with speeds ranging from stop start for 45 minutes to 130Km/h on the freeways for a total of 1-2 hours each day this looks ideal for most peoples needs.

On the weekends out west, I could shell out another 15K on a "fun" bike but then that's another 15K top shell out. Then I could get a bigger car and a trailer so I could tow the "fun" bike out to the good roads to avoid the long boring bits that's not so much fun on the fun bike. I have seen it. It happens.

I could also depreciate the crap out of my fun bike by using it in not so fun traffic and spend big on tires that re being chewed up.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:48 PM   #1529
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I wonder how difficult it would be to turbocharge one of these things...


I dearly, dearly, loved my CX500Turbo!
Stranger things have happened.

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Old 05-04-2012, 06:01 PM   #1530
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So I called a somewhat local dealer today, one that is in a largely rural area. He said it could be July but don't expect it until August or even September. I asked him if he had seen much interest in this bike and he said that have fielded a lot inquiries about it. I'll take that as a good sign. I even talked to him about putting a deposit down. Of course he wanted me to do so, but I'm still thinking about it and weighing the NC700X against a Versys. He did say that he was planning on selling a lot of them.

Long story short, I'll probably put a deposit down on it, even with the salesman reiterating that it may be September before it hits.

FWIW, he said he has heard that Givi has a rack system in the works for this bike. I haven't really checked anything out by Givi in a while. Left me with the impression that Givi doesn't make stuff for the bike... yet. I have seen H/B bags for it. He said that he hasn't heard anything firm, but to expect a full Honda factory bag set to run $1200. I'll pass on that.
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