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Old 05-10-2012, 09:26 PM   #64081
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Any chance of before and after pics?
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:46 PM   #64082
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Not at all! Once you did the edit it was ALL GOOD. Lots of stuff to think about, but some good ideas in there. It all goes into my mental "tool box" for troubleshooting. Always something to be learned.

I'm sure you'll track this problem down. Making just one change at a time makes narrowing down the culprit easier. But sometimes you just want to ride! Good luck with it!
Thanks Grifter, I keep one of those mental 'tool boxes' too.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:47 PM   #64083
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Any chance of before and after pics?
Well, here's what my front looked like last week.



I'll take some pics before, during and after cutting on the rear K761.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:26 PM   #64084
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If you just cleaned your carb and didn't remove the pilot and run something soft thru the jet, it may be plugged.
Running something soft through the jet may not yield desirable results, as it is not likely to remove all of whatever deposits that may be present. Remember that the area of the bore is small enough where even a small amount of remaining deposits can make a significant impact in terms of percentage change.

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Old 05-10-2012, 10:33 PM   #64085
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If its running the stock muffler, I'd try going down to the 155 main. The 160 is really only used with an open pipe.
Just a reminder that the DJ mains are sized differently than Mikuni mains.

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Old 05-10-2012, 10:44 PM   #64086
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Wicked My new baby

Well I picked up my new bike today. It is a beaut!





I broke it in using the Motoman technique: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
I had bought my last one used and had no idea how it was broken in but I decided to go this route for my new one as it makes a lot of sense to me and I don't have the patients to follow the factory break in.







So I took off and hit the back roads near my house. I rode it as recommended and by the time I got home it was noticeably more powerful.




So I changed the brand new oil out for brand new oil(ouch), but I'm glad I did, there was all kinds of junk in the filter. A lot of it looked like plastic, very little metal. I will change the oil again after a few hundred more miles just to be on the safe side.
After the oil change I stripped it down and removed the kick stand safety switch and clutch safety switch as well as removing the upper chain roller (filled the hole) and replaced the lower roller with a bearing type roller.


I took it for another spin after completing all of this and noticed an immediate improvement in shifting due to the semi-syn oil. I don't know what the dealership puts in there but based on everything else they do I imagine it is the cheapest crap they can get their hands on. I don't trust anyone at the dealer to know their a$$ from a hole in the ground so I plan on repacking all the bearings and re-torquing everything as time allows.
Brief rant: I paid six grand for a brand new bike and when I went to pick it up it was filthy! Not like it had been ridden but like it had sat around for a year (its an '11 so it did) and they had to truck it over from Nevada in a pickup and then didn't even bother to wash it. I also found it to be missing one of the little rubber exhaust stand-offs that bolts to the side plastic, hopefully they will get me one without hassle. Then when I went to the parts department to get oil change stuff they didn't have a filter in stock! They carry three different brands and were out of all three. I found one at the small bike shop near my house and got the same oil there for two bucks less per quart. I will not be going back to the dealer unless it is absolutely necessary. Rant over.



Over all I am totally happy with my bike (I should be since I had the same thing before and loved it). The only comment I would make is that it should come with a 14t front. I had forgotten how over geared it is with the 15t. I had swapped to a 14t on my last bike after a few thousand miles and never went back. I cant imagine were I would want a 15t, maybe if I commuted on the Autobahn...?

Anyway, I'm just all giddy and had to spill to people I new would understand.

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Old 05-10-2012, 10:45 PM   #64087
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+1
The BST carb doesn't like low RPM and can be tricky to get to work properly at low RPM. It can be fine tuned for better low RPM performance -- but it takes a "lot" of patience IMO. Playing with the needle, pilot screw, and pilot jets can help quite a bit, OR DRIVE YOU NUTS.
It does help when the fuel level is not high from a worn out float needle and the emulsion tube is not worn out.

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Old 05-10-2012, 11:17 PM   #64088
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jessepitt....Congrats! Unfortunate that your local dealer is missing attention to detail and parts needs but it seems maybe you found a more helpful shop as a result. Enjoy the ride....again.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:10 AM   #64089
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So I changed the brand new oil out for brand new oil(ouch), but I'm glad I did, there was all kinds of junk in the filter. A lot of it looked like plastic, very little metal. I will change the oil again after a few hundred more miles just to be on the safe side.
After the oil change I stripped it down and removed the kick stand safety switch and clutch safety switch as well as removing the upper chain roller (filled the hole) and replaced the lower roller with a bearing type roller.


I took it for another spin after completing all of this and noticed an immediate improvement in shifting due to the semi-syn oil. I don't know what the dealership puts in there but based on everything else they do I imagine it is the cheapest crap they can get their hands on. I don't trust anyone at the dealer to know their a$$ from a hole in the ground so I plan on repacking all the bearings and re-torquing everything as time allows.
Brief rant: I paid six grand for a brand new bike and when I went to pick it up it was filthy! Not like it had been ridden but like it had sat around for a year (its an '11 so it did) and they had to truck it over from Nevada in a pickup and then didn't even bother to wash it. I also found it to be missing one of the little rubber exhaust stand-offs that bolts to the side plastic, hopefully they will get me one without hassle. Then when I went to the parts department to get oil change stuff they didn't have a filter in stock! They carry three different brands and were out of all three. I found one at the small bike shop near my house and got the same oil there for two bucks less per quart. I will not be going back to the dealer unless it is absolutely necessary. Rant over.
Sounds like your dealer crew are meth heads. I know we get a lot of that up near the CA/OR border.

But don't worry about greased bearings ... dealers don't do that. Dealers typically hire a "set up" company to uncrate new bikes and build them. The bikes are basically all built in Japan, only a few things are taken off for shipping.

The Set UP company install: batt, front wheel, brake caliper, handlebars, mirrors and seat, front cowl and side panels. They are supposed to "go over" the bike and check torque ... and then the actual selling dealer is required (by law I think) to do a PDI again before actual delivery to you.
If American Suzuki knew about the "dirty bike" they would have a word with your dealer. Unacceptable.

But good to double check tightness on important items. I have found loose caliper bolts, (this is a biggy), loose axle bolts, loose top stem nuts and loose triple clamp bolts. (do not over tighten these) Be sure to check tire pressures too!

The dealer oil i'm sure is OK. And it only did 40 miles ... so who cares?

Grease should be OK everywhere. Suzuki are pretty good. You won't find huge glops of grease ... but usually ... just enough.
This bike is no brainer easy! Have fun.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:48 AM   #64090
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Does seem impressive for sure.

I've not long got home from a 4,800 km trip to the Flinders where I used a T63 up back and a Pirelli Scorpion Rally up front. The T63 is pretty much done, but the Scorpio Rally Front will go again and it works exceedingly well, very stable, predictable and controllable in the sand and gravel. It also wears square, so no cupping at all. I believe its my 'holy grail' front tyre FWIW. Better than the E09, 606 and MT21s used to date on the DR650, except maybe the MT21 will last a bit longer if its rotated, maybe.

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I'm with you on the Scorpion Rally. I've got to import mine from Aussie. Pirelli NZ are to dumb to realize how good a tyre it is and to spite requests wont import them as stock, indent only. They seem to work well in all conditions. I have maybe 8000km on mine. Will be getting another one for our TAT trip.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:35 AM   #64091
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I like that. I'm surprised though...that much attention to detail and they accepted the cheesy looking heat-shield?



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http://www.bikeexif.com/dr650-suzuki


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Old 05-11-2012, 06:57 AM   #64092
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Well I picked up my new bike today. Then when I went to the parts department to get oil change stuff they didn't have a filter in stock! Rant over.




Anyway, I'm just all giddy and had to spill to people I new would understand.
Congrats on the NEW bike.

Rant back on: The fact that the dealer didn't have an oil filter really gets me. That filter fits soooo many models including quads. That is unexcusable. Stay away from them period. Drive to the next nearest Suzuki dealer even if it's 3 hours away. Thing is, with the internet, you can get any part you need delivered to your door within days. (and save gas money) If you have to drive to the dealer to find out they don't have it and then drive bck after it comes in, you've wasted time and money.

My dealer only had 1 fork seal in stock for my DR650, so I went 20 miles away to the next one and got a set. The seals are like the oil filters, they fit a lot of other models. I even went so far as to cross reference a Kawasaki seal the same size and they didn't have those either. I asked again about a year and a half later and the dealer had zero fork seals. Then the dealer wonders why people order off the internet.

Rant over again.

Fortunately we have ProCycle and Keintech for all kinds of stuff for our bikes and the support of all the people and knowledge amassed in this thread.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:31 AM   #64093
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Congrats on the NEW bike.

Rant back on: The fact that the dealer didn't have an oil filter really gets me. That filter fits soooo many models including quads. That is unexcusable. Stay away from them period. Drive to the next nearest Suzuki dealer even if it's 3 hours away. Thing is, with the internet, you can get any part you need delivered to your door within days. (and save gas money) If you have to drive to the dealer to find out they don't have it and then drive bck after it comes in, you've wasted time and money.



Rant over again.

Fortunately we have ProCycle and Keintech for all kinds of stuff for our bikes and the support of all the people and knowledge amassed in this thread.

I would have ordered the filter from procycle but I wanted to get the oil changed immediatly after break in so I could ride it to work and take it camping this weekend so I found it locally. Unfortunatly things a pretty spread out here in central OR so the next actual Suzuki dealer is probably in portland. Fortunatly both of the little hole-in-the-wall bike shops had the filter I needed. Plus they were much more knowledgeable about motorcycles. The salesman I delt with a the dealer did not actually own a motorcycle and hadnt had one since the mid eighties. I got suspicious when all his MC stories were about his XL500 and he refer to it as his first bike in one story and his last in another. No one I talked to there knew as much about MC's as I or the average ADV member do and none had heard of ADV.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:51 AM   #64094
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R6 Throttle tube

Question for you guys with the R6 throttle tube.

Whats the difference between these two part numbers?

5SL-26240-01-00

2C0-26240-00-00

They are both used on the R6, even across the same model years.

On the recommendation of some members in this thread, I have been using 5SL-26240-01-00 on my bike. I was told the R6 throttle tube 5SL-26240-01-00 would not have to be modified to work. I am on my third R6 throttle tube, and on every one I had to file the idle stop down quite a bit to make it work properly. Not a big deal, takes 2 minutes with a dremel.

Just wondering if maybe 2C0-26240-00-00 is the part number that works without modification?


EDIT:

Oops just did a little more research. Looks like 5SL-26240-01-00 is a black throttle tube from the R6s and has a smaller cam (slower throttle pull) than the 2C0-26240-00-00 which is a white throttle tube from the regular R6 and has a larger cam. Going to order a 2C0-26240-00-00 and see how it is.

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Old 05-11-2012, 10:03 AM   #64095
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