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Old 05-12-2012, 03:27 PM   #4231
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:07 AM   #4232
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Question Chain & Sprockets

What is considered to be the hot ticket for chain & sprockets for a dual-sported XR600R? The ones that came on my '95 when I bought it a year ago didn't seem to last very long. I heard somewhere that a kit for an XR650R will fit, and is the way to go, but I figure nobody out there would know better than my fellow XR600R ADV friends.

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Old 05-13-2012, 03:15 AM   #4233
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What is considered to be the hot ticket for chain & sprockets for a dual-sported XR600R? The ones that came on my '95 when I bought it a year ago didn't seem to last very long. I heard somewhere that a kit for an XR650R will fit, and is the way to go, but I figure nobody out there would know better than my fellow XR600R ADV friends.

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Get moose or msr front sprockets for the XR650R and x-ring chains. That's the secret. Everything else is hardened steel and will eat your countershaft. Happy riding :)
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:18 AM   #4234
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To clarify: get Msr or Moose sprockets for the XR650R, all the other aftermarket sprockets are hardened and will eat up your countershaft. Mine is half way gone already.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:50 PM   #4235
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To clarify: get Msr or Moose sprockets for the XR650R, all the other aftermarket sprockets are hardened and will eat up your countershaft. Mine is half way gone already.

NOPE, I will disagree on this, just a smidge...


this is true for the xrl, which are heavier and suffer more of the stripped countershaft symptom prone to that model bike

For the XR600 the BEST sprocket is the non hardened and quite expensive OEM countesrhaft sprocket, I have a pic showing not only he wider than aftermarket spline area, but also the lightened holes for the sprocket. The shaft spline area was 4mm thcker than a jt sprocket.

for rear the only reccomendation is to not use alumium sprockets are they wear way too easily, thats of course unless you race

jt or moose or any other rear steel non hardened is fine

Stay away from anything that says super strong, extra hardened, alloy etc...

steel is what you want

the old maleable kind

save your drive train not your chain! by that I mean, replace chain more often than sprockets, especially if you use standard non oring roller chains

uoooo taboo

right

cheers dudes!
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:56 PM   #4236
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For the XR600 the BEST sprocket is the non hardened and quite expensive OEM countesrhaft sprocket....
... But, a bargain compared to this:

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Old 05-13-2012, 04:03 PM   #4237
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guess I need a new 10mm allen socket and a crank bolt cover thingy..
deejay, you asked if the JB welded allen socket worked. The answer is a resounding "no." Not really sure what to do now. I guess I can try to chisel in a counter-clockwise direction? Any other ideas? I have minimal tools, only hand tools, no dremel, etc.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:08 PM   #4238
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deejay, you asked if the JB welded allen socket worked. The answer is a resounding "no." Not really sure what to do now. I guess I can try to chisel in a counter-clockwise direction? Any other ideas? I have minimal tools, only hand tools, no dremel, etc.
Ah that sucks man !

I would maybe try drilling two fairly shallow holes in the plug and try to loosen it with of one these sorts of tools.



You can improvise one of these with a piece of steel and threaded rod (like at the bottom of this thread http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=48599.0) , an actual tool would be preferable though.

That's the first thing that comes to my mind. I'm sure someone will come along that has had this problem as well, and share their solution

You could try putting the case in the freezer overnight before you try a new solution. The cold will help loosen the plug a tiny bit.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:11 PM   #4239
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Counter Shaft Sprockets

OK, Here's the deal with the replacement counter shaft sprockets. The guys over at the XR650l thread have figured out that if a XR650R counter shaft sprocket is used the shaft wear is greatly reduced. Why? Because the XRR sprocket is wider than the OE sprocket and thus spreads the load and wear over a broader surface area.

Now if you were to use a regular run of the mill copy sprocket it is actually narrower and harder than the XR OE sprocket and really concentrates the load to a narrow area and beats the crap out of the shaft. This is really an issue with bikes that don't have a cush hub and that are run on the pavement. A bike run in the dirt is not so prone to this problem as the tires grip on the dirt is much less than pavement. Got it?

So it's really best to at least run a factory sprocket or even better a XRR sprocket. Your counter shaft will thank you for this.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #4240
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:12 PM   #4241
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OK, Here's the deal with the replacement counter shaft sprockets.
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I checked into the wider sprocket, and the one they showed me had the wrong spline for my '88.

For the record, the sprocket that caused the damage shown in my pic was on the bike when I bought it. I discovered this mess when changing the chain/sprockets.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:28 PM   #4242
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deejay, you asked if the JB welded allen socket worked. The answer is a resounding "no." Not really sure what to do now. I guess I can try to chisel in a counter-clockwise direction? Any other ideas? I have minimal tools, only hand tools, no dremel, etc.
After you first posted this I thought you'd get it off soon enough and didn't chime in. Had my doubts about the JB weld.

Just hammer counter clockwise and it should unscrew pretty easy. It happened to me once and came right out that way. Yeah, a spanner could be made, but the cap is toast anyway just knock it off.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:09 PM   #4243
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Guys,

I have a set of fairly standard 7/8" Renthal bars on my piggie and I'm thinking of getting rid of the cross strut to clean up my cockpit.

Anybody have experience with this? Will I sacrifice a noticeable amount of stiffness in the bars if I do this?
It's worth to note I ride sumo, no dirt.

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Old 05-13-2012, 08:25 PM   #4244
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... But, a bargain compared to this:

THAT MY friend is exactly my point

$40 vs. 500 for a rebuild...
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:58 PM   #4245
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Hey guys, I'm taking 3 CRF stems to my friends place tomorow. One is mine, the other is steve's and the other is DJ's. If anyone wants to get a stem turned down, now is the time. PM for specifics, but the prices are in the 2digit range, turned down, with threads and with sleeve to go in the top trip.
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