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Old 05-14-2012, 11:25 PM   #3286
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thought there was a cdi box listed in the fiche for the rr...might be the same as the 450rr
the Vortex test bed was a 690rr I guarantee richard can to it
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:12 AM   #3287
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Rally replica uses a different stator and pulser from ralley replica and super mmoto and the coil is from most of the exc's up to 05

funny the replica dont list a cdi box.....must be made of unobtinium

41fcr for the carb
The stator and pulse coil are the same between the rallye rep and the enduro.

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Old 05-15-2012, 01:24 AM   #3288
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Ive mentioned this brand and company the last time i had dealings with them but they havnt let me down again - bought a guard it tech rear rack from adventure spec from the UK here in three days thats twice ive bought from them and twice delivered to australia in three days and the guard it products are the ducks,Three days delivered from the uk to australia unbelievable im stoked
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:37 AM   #3289
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The stator and pulse coil are the same between the rallye rep and the enduro.

# 8 on drawing CDI DIGITAL BOX
690 RALLY FACTORY REPLICA


Order multiple parts from this assembly

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Bike:
690 RALLY FACTORY REPLICA
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BATTERY
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Delivered within 5 working days.



  • 166.70* + VAT (200.04 inc VAT)
* The price quoted for this part is based on the manufacturers price for the item. Occasionally however, some parts are superceded by alternative components provided by these manufacturers that also mean the price is different to that shown. Should this be the case with any parts within your order, Speedaway will contact you to advise you of this as well as offer you a refund for the part in question.
dooooh! i should have looked under the battery tab. The part numbers for the pulser and stator are different for the rally rep but you say the enduro r will work with the cdi?

i am really tired of trying to make this bike work right... it seems every time i get one weakness fixed another pops up.

does anybody know if the workshop manual has voltage and resistance measurements that can help me trouble shoot the loss of 12 v at the coil? i dont mind paying for the book but want to be sure it has that kind of info first

thanks beany
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:25 AM   #3290
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Ok guys, you're freaking me out here. I'm building up my 690 for travel and don't want to be left on the side of the road. Is it your opinion that if I only replace the fuel pump (or carry a spare), and leave the rest of the bike stock (i.e. no Vortex, no foam air filter, etc) that I stand the best chance of getting a reliable bike?

I just can't believe all the stories here, and yet Sherri has ridden her bike round the world with almost no hiccups (until recently, apparently some mechanic inflicted motor trouble). It does not seem that she's had any trouble with the fuel injection or electronics.

Thoughts?
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:35 AM   #3291
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Ok guys, you're freaking me out here. I'm building up my 690 for travel and don't want to be left on the side of the road. Is it your opinion that if I only replace the fuel pump (or carry a spare), and leave the rest of the bike stock (i.e. no Vortex, no foam air filter, etc) that I stand the best chance of getting a reliable bike?

I just can't believe all the stories here, and yet Sherri has ridden her bike round the world with almost no hiccups (until recently, apparently some mechanic inflicted motor trouble). It does not seem that she's had any trouble with the fuel injection or electronics.

Thoughts?
My thought? It's a motorcycle, just ride the damn thing and stop trying to overthink it.
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:50 AM   #3292
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My thought? It's a motorcycle, just ride the damn thing and stop trying to overthink it.
+1

Shit happens, but don't live waiting for it...
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:55 AM   #3293
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dooooh! i should have looked under the battery tab. The part numbers for the pulser and stator are different for the rally rep but you say the enduro r will work with the cdi?

i am really tired of trying to make this bike work right... it seems every time i get one weakness fixed another pops up.

does anybody know if the workshop manual has voltage and resistance measurements that can help me trouble shoot the loss of 12 v at the coil? i dont mind paying for the book but want to be sure it has that kind of info first

thanks beany
I just bought a parts lot from a local racer on a 690 SMC, it's supposed to include a carb conversion kit with all OEM parts (probably 690 Rally?). He mentioned a 41mm carb with TPS, flywheel, ignition coil, wiring harness and ECU.

Looking at the microfiche this appears to be correct as all those parts are different from the standard 690 E/R/SMC etc.

I'll post some info once I get the stuff in the garage. Maybe it's time I finally step up and actually get a 690 after reading pretty much every post in both this and the old threads!!!
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:59 AM   #3294
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Ok guys, you're freaking me out here. I'm building up my 690 for travel and don't want to be left on the side of the road. Is it your opinion that if I only replace the fuel pump (or carry a spare), and leave the rest of the bike stock (i.e. no Vortex, no foam air filter, etc) that I stand the best chance of getting a reliable bike?

I just can't believe all the stories here, and yet Sherri has ridden her bike round the world with almost no hiccups (until recently, apparently some mechanic inflicted motor trouble). It does not seem that she's had any trouble with the fuel injection or electronics.

Thoughts?
You can have a look at what fuel system the KTM team runs in long distance races to know how much they trust the fuel injection system themselves....

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My thought? It's a motorcycle, just ride the damn thing and stop trying to overthink it.
As long as you AA is just a cell phone call away, sure thing. But how many times has your 690 been outside of the US Albie?
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:16 AM   #3295
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Looking at the microfiche this appears to be correct as all those parts are different from the standard 690 E/R/SMC etc...
Could you post a link or PM it to me on that, Lukas? Thanks.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:21 AM   #3296
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Could you post a link or PM it to me on that, Lukas? Thanks.
Sure thing Ron, let me know your email address and I'll send you the Rally microfiche.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:40 AM   #3297
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Dear KTMers :)

I been thinking about getting myself 690 as my trusty old machine started to get too expensive and bothersome after overall of 130 000 km of hard life. I just can't pull myself to do another rebuild after I messed up freshly rebuilt motor because of my own error.

I was hoping for some pointers...perhaps it was discussed before, but I wanted to get opinion from you after so many years/miles of your life with 690.

How realistic is to use 690 SM or other 690s as long distance tourer? Top speed is no problem, but it must do good under 140 kmph, do at least 200 km between fillups etc?
How bad is seat? Did anyone tried new "ergonomic" seat in 400-500 miles per day ride?
How realistic is 2-up if me and wife both quite small?
Is there aftermarket crashbars for SM or only for Enduro/SMC and if so - how good they are?

Would you trust your 690 to take off for 6000 km tour let say from one side of Europe to let say other side of Norway?

I particularly interested in 690 SM to be honest, but may be I am wrong and SMC/Enduro is better choice.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:43 AM   #3298
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Maybe it's time I finally step up and actually get a 690 after reading pretty much every post in both this and the old threads!!!
It's almost time, Lukas, as you are a fellow 690er in "spirit" since long ago...
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:46 AM   #3299
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Well according to the fiche I look at the stator and pulse coil are the same.
The Ign coil and flywheel have different numbers





Year: 2010 Model: 690 ENDURO R (EU)








175030002000IGNITION COVER 0735.88
249030090000DOWEL 9,8 X 7 X1.17
360039040020CABLE SUPPORT GENERATOR 031.54
407700240251O-RING 24X25 VITON0.75
56003009400030SCREW PLUG M24X15 PA 6.61.48
675030040000IGNITI.COVER GASKET 072.60
775039004000STATOR142.68
975039005000FLYWHEEL197.89
100025050166HH COLLAR SCREW M5X16 TX300.20
1175039006000IGNITIONCOIL 0726.40
1275039090000SPARK PLUG CONNECT.8.69
1475039093000SPARK PLUG M12X125 LKAR8AI-910.65
150025060256HH COLLAR SCREW M6X25 TX300.70
160025060306HH COLLAR SCREW M6X30 TX300.75
1775039034000PULSER COIL27.83
1859009062016SPECIAL SCREW M6X16 WS=8 10.90.58






Year: 2010 Model: 690 RALLY FACTORY REPLICA






175030002000IGNITION COVER 0735.88
249030090000DOWEL 9,8 X 7 X1.17
360039040020CABLE SUPPORT GENERATOR 031.54
407700240251O-RING 24X25 VITON0.75
56003009400030SCREW PLUG M24X15 PA 6.61.48
675030040000IGNITI.COVER GASKET 072.60
775039004000STATOR142.68
80025060306HH COLLAR SCREW M6X30 TX300.75
976239005000FLYWHEEL197.89
100025050166HH COLLAR SCREW M5X16 TX300.20
1159039006000IGNITIONCOIL KOKUSAN 4K3-A/B22.79
1275039090000SPARK PLUG CONNECT.8.69
1475039093000SPARK PLUG M12X125 LKAR8AI-910.65
150025060256HH COLLAR SCREW M6X25 TX300.70
160025060306HH COLLAR SCREW M6X30 TX300.75
1775039034000PULSER COIL27.83
1859009062016SPECIAL SCREW M6X16 WS=8 10.90.58





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Old 05-15-2012, 07:51 AM   #3300
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As long as you AA is just a cell phone call away, sure thing. But how many times has your 690 been outside of the US Albie?
As far as I have understand during these years here in ADVRider, US spec'd bikes appear to have much more trouble than the euro ones, perhaps due to all that dreaded emissions crap or a greatest ethanol percentage in the fuel.
Albie's bike could have behaved better outside the US...
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