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Old 05-15-2012, 02:14 AM   #1171
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This is the technique I use but with just 2 biners and no descending rings, doesn't get much simpler or more versatile.
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:49 AM   #1172
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It looks like my Superfly with the built in doors.

Awesome tarp!

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Thanks!
Doc's tarp is very similar to the Warbonnet Superfly, but his is actually a Wilderness Logics Oldman Winter -- and he has a pole mod done to his. See the middle of the tarp? There's a sectional aluminum, shock-corded pole under there. The Oldman Winter also has two cat cuts along each side and a center guy-out point.

I'm sure that Erik will be along before long to tell us more about it, but it's a really cool tarp.

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Old 05-15-2012, 10:19 AM   #1173
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Doc's tarp is very similar to the Warbonnet Superfly, but his is actually a Wilderness Logics Oldman Winter -- and he has a pole mod done to his. See the middle of the tarp? There's a sectional aluminum, shock-corded pole under there. The Oldman Winter also has two cat cuts along each side and a center guy-out point.

I'm sure that Erik will be along before long to tell us more about it, but it's a really cool tarp.

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Not much else to add. Wilderness Logics Old Man winter with pole pockets sewn in at the center tie out points. Makes it quite roomy inside

The pole is seven sections @ 16" each, so it fits in most panniers or top-boxes. I'm not a gram weenie since I don't really hike...the VFR didn't complain about the extra weight

The one thing I have noticed from making purchases from Wilderness Logics is that Marty really turns orders around quickly. I ordered the tarp on Thursday afternoon and had it by Tuesday the next week.

Edit: Chris, I didn't get a chance to see you on Sunday before I left. When I left, I honked at your tarp/hammock, but then I realized it was just your pants hanging from the ridgeline.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:02 PM   #1174
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Thanks doc.

Two more questions: The pole is one piece (16" sections).
Does it stay in place with tension?
Is there a continuous sleeve?
Or is there a tie in the center to keep the pole located?

Who made the pole?
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:07 PM   #1175
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Edit: Chris, I didn't get a chance to see you on Sunday before I left. When I left, I honked at your tarp/hammock, but then I realized it was just your pants hanging from the ridgeline.
So YOU are the FF who woke me up!

Just kidding. Sorry I missed you Sunday. When are you heading back up?

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Old 05-15-2012, 12:46 PM   #1176
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Thanks doc.

Two more questions: The pole is one piece (16" sections).
Does it stay in place with tension?
Is there a continuous sleeve?
Or is there a tie in the center to keep the pole located?

Who made the pole?
It's just like a tent pole. Shock-corded together with end caps on both end pieces. Total length is just over 112".

No. Just two 1.5" pockets located at the center tie out point.

The method I was told, and works well to install, is to tie down one side of the tarp. Leave the other side slack. Install the pole over the ridgeline and into the pocket on the tied down side. Then tie down the other side. You can tie down the center tie outs if you want, but not necessary. One benefit with a silnylon tarp is that usually you need tensioners to gather up the slack when it cools, but the pole tends to take up the slace and just spreads out a little bit. Just makes construction of the tie outs easier. The instructions I got said to tie the pole to the center, and that may be an issue in the wind, but I didn't do it, and it stayed put 24 hours.

I got mine from Wilderness logics as a special order item. It's not an item on his e-store.

If you want to check out another cool solution to the same problem, check out the Hard Rock Winter Tarp. Same basic tarp design, but uses two three section carbon fiber poles on the outside that attach directly to the side pullouts. It's a slick design, and you could probably pull it off as a DIY project with a little thought. After talking to Marty at WL, it's clear that with the pole sections and some sort of attachment, I could go that route if I choose. I like this version...less loose pieces to keep track of.

Hope this helps.

Edit:

If you look closely, you can see the pole entering the pocket on the inside of the back wall. This is my modified porch mode for sitting around during the day. I can use poles if needed, but this works well enough.

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Old 05-15-2012, 02:44 PM   #1177
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Nice!

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Old 05-15-2012, 06:29 PM   #1178
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All this talk of your fly's has got me looking....








for something for me!


Found this doing a search online:

Kelty Noah's Tarp 12

12 ft x 12 ft - Diagonal width is 17 ft.




Poles and tie outs not included.

Approx. 3 "Jackson"s plus shipping.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:30 PM   #1179
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Look around for last years model (essentially no difference). I bought a 12' and a 16' for about $80 - shipped last fall.
I use the 12 foot instead of a fly with my tent and as an add-on for my old VV hammocks. The Kelty poles (4 section) only cost $29.95 a set and can be found for less.

The 16 footer was the cook tent for the Laurel Fork Spring Frolic.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:13 PM   #1180
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:20 PM   #1181
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Cool setup wierd1, but what is the slab of wood you are carrying with you on top of the rubbermaid?



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Old 05-16-2012, 03:09 PM   #1182
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Cool setup wierd1, but what is the slab of wood you are carrying with you on top of the rubbermaid?
it is just a pice of firewood I didn't use the night before, if I still have it I will burn it in TX next week. lol
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:16 PM   #1183
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it is just a pice of firewood I didn't use the night before, if I still have it I will burn it in TX next week. lol
That set-up is freakin' awesome!
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:46 PM   #1184
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Has anyone used a hammock on the twat?


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Old 05-16-2012, 08:53 PM   #1185
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Has anyone used a hammock on the twat?
Near the lake just south of Lake City, CO. Pulled in late and bivy'd instead.



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