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Old 05-18-2012, 10:39 AM   #23896
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Since the subject of chain tools came up, how do you break the SRAM chains with the sliding clip master link?
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:49 AM   #23897
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Grab at either side and push toward the center.
Or, use needlenosed pliers to press the two rollers toward the center.
After the first time it is easier. I bet there is a special tool someplace.



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Since the subject of chain tools came up, how do you break the SRAM chains with the sliding clip master link?
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:18 AM   #23898
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Since the subject of chain tools came up, how do you break the SRAM chains with the sliding clip master link?
OK, my bike has one of those, or something similar. So getting the old chain of won't be a problem. if I buy a new one of the same brand, do I still need a chain tool? I'm thinking "yes" because I need to shorten the chain to fit. Right?
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:23 AM   #23899
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OK, my bike has one of those, or something similar. So getting the old chain of won't be a problem. if I buy a new one of the same brand, do I still need a chain tool? I'm thinking "yes" because I need to shorten the chain to fit. Right?
yeah, that.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:22 PM   #23900
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So today is/was ride your bicycle to work day? I didn't.
I bike commuted for about 25 years and am fortunate that the area I live in is relatively bike-friendly. I mostly work from home these days, so not so much bike commuting but I still use the bike to get around and run errands, and just for recreation. But I never had the bike-racer look 'cuz my bikes have always had panniers. Now, with my recumbent, I'm even more geekier-looking than before - --but way more comfortable than the racers!
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:18 PM   #23901
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for personal occasional use, the simplest cheap bike chain tool work just fine...

I use one of these...

I've got one of those and I've got a Rivoli I bought in the late 80s that still works just fine



I'd *like*

...but don't do enough work on chains to need one.

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Old 05-18-2012, 03:19 PM   #23902
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Grab at either side and push toward the center.
Or, use needlenosed pliers to press the two rollers toward the center.
After the first time it is easier. I bet there is a special tool someplace.
Park does make one and it does make it easier. Used mine today actually.

If I hadn't gotten at shop employee price I wouldn't have bought it tho.

I pulled apart 3 bikes to make 2 work. The Quattro Assi donated the rear derailleur and shifters to the Full Tilt Boogie that I just bought back. The Allez donated shifters and rear derailleur to the Quattro Assi. The Allez needs shifters and a rear derailleur now. I HATE having bikes in the garage that aren't rideable.

If you're wondering 'why didn't G! just take the parts off the Allez to put on the FTB?' the answer is the QA had Red on it and the Allez had Rival. Now the FTB has Red and the QA has the Rival. I'll probably end up with Force and take the Rival back off the QA and stick it back on the Allez.

The upside to the whole shootin match is the nifty new KMC chain I'd bought for the Roubaix before I sold it went on the Allez (old chain/old cassette on the Roubaix). Now its on the QA. I can get a 10sp chain pin for the chain that was on the Allez and put it back where it was.

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Old 05-18-2012, 09:55 PM   #23903
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......The cassette lock ring was hand-tight. That's not right, right?
that's not good.

although it seems to me you'd have to be especially unobservant for it to happen, i do see a surprising number of broken freehub threads from loosened lockrings and cogs being ridden off the end. (!)

while most cassette lockring tools aren't socket style, which pretty much negates the value of the printed torque spec, by using one in combination with a medium sized crescent wrench i can't imagine anyone seriously overtightening their lockring. well, maybe popeye...
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #23904
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that's not good.


while most cassette lockring tools aren't socket style, which pretty much negates the value of the printed torque spec, by using one in combination with a medium sized crescent wrench i can't imagine anyone seriously overtightening their lockring. well, maybe popeye...
It kinda threw me for a minute. I've never taken the cassette off before. I got my fancy lockring tool all set up, and my cassette holder in place, and the thing just started spinning. I was like, "wtf?!"

My lockring tool is actually a socket style, but I didn't have a socket to fit. I just tightened it with a crescent wrench to "pretty damn tight."
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:47 AM   #23905
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My lockring tool is actually a socket style, but I didn't have a socket to fit. I just tightened it with a crescent wrench to "pretty damn tight."
You really don't need it that tight. All its doing is holding the cassette on. Its not structural or anything.

I rode the Full Tilt Boogie Mk2 just now. Oh man. I'd forgotten what a rocketship that thing is. Stiff. Light(ish). Comfortable. The ONLY fly in the ointment is it got ordered without bottle cages. I either have to be a fred and wear a camelback or shove bottles in my jersey pockets. Oh well. Its a small sacrifice to ride something that nice.

Note to Askel: its not a very good long-distance gravel road bike. Too stiff thru the fork/front end. Fan-farging-tastic short-distance/race bike tho.

Buddy of mine is coming over for some help working on his Stumpjumper. He should be bringing beer and pizza.

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Old 05-20-2012, 02:53 AM   #23906
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...The ONLY fly in the ointment is it got ordered without bottle cages. I either have to be a fred and wear a camelback or shove bottles in my jersey pockets....
didn't someone used to make a double bottle holder that clamped to the seatpost and held the bottles behind/under the seat? I know we had bottle holders that bolted onto the gooseneck and held a pair of bottles in front of the handlebars, too.
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:55 AM   #23907
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Note to Askel: its not a very good long-distance gravel road bike. Too stiff thru the fork/front end. Fan-farging-tastic short-distance/race bike tho.

The only good gravel road bike is a motorcycle. The rest just begin a series of compromises.

Just finished the Royal 162 yesterday. 155 miles of MN gravel. Literally twice as hot, and probably twice as windy as last year. 86F with a steady 15-20mph wind and gusts to 35mph.

The course was about 2 miles shorter than last year. Maybe not everybody liked the "adventure loop". Managed to shave about 30 minutes off my time from last year and maybe, just maybe- not finish dead last (there was a mother/son team on fat bikes that had a good shot at making the cutoff).

The Fargo is definitely slower than the Jake, but I spent far less time this year off the bike, quietly crying to myself and praying for a quick, painless death. I was able to do that while still pedaling on the Fargo.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:45 AM   #23908
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The Fargo is definitely slower than the Jake, but I spent far less time this year off the bike, quietly crying to myself and praying for a quick, painless death.
I rode the Fargo the last time I did D2R2, 2 years ago. Took me 13 hours to do all 112 miles of it, and I was DFL by a pretty wide margin.

I remember one of the last bad hills. Dirt with lots of embedded babyheads. Every time I hit one of those rocks my sit bones screamed in pain. After grinding away for a bit in the granny, I got off and started pushing. A guy in a pickup who was working support for the ride pulled up next to me and asked if I had a mechanical. "The bike is fine. I just don't want to ride the fucking thing right now."

I love that ride.
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Old 05-20-2012, 01:53 PM   #23909
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Bents can't climb.

Up at 0430, breakfast at Waffle House and then on the road in South Mt at 0545. Just a tab under 45 miles, half of which are climbing and one single foot from 5400-ft of total elevation gain.

By the time I finished, temps were well over 90 and I was out of water!

I wasn't passed by a car until half an hour on the road and as usual, there are more cyclists than cars. Most cyclists only do one or two climbs. I may see one or two more than twice. Only the truly bent-and-afflicted do more than three. I may be slow - and old(er) - but I am persistent.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:41 PM   #23910
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Currently sitting on the side of the road, a few miles short of the highest point on the planned ride for the day. Things were going great until my rear tire exploded -- not just the tube, the tread of the tire was shredded.

Now I'm watching bikes and motos and sports cars whip by on the winding road and amusing myself with my phone while I wait for my ride home to get here.

I got a motorcycle on Friday. My first in almost 6 years. A Yamaha WR250R. Had a fantastic time on it that afternoon and yesterday, and was tempted to take it out again today. But I convinced myself to be healthy and pedal instead.
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