Triumph Tiger 800

[av_mech]

Originally Posted by cug

Is that what you're looking for:

http://www.bikebandit.com/2012-trium...4268#sch740809

?

Yep. Don't know why I skipped that one from Bike Bandit in my search. Does everybody else just buy straight from the dealership?

[cug]

I don't like the two closest dealers here, so I try to get stuff someplace else ...

[av_mech]

So you've had good luck with bike bandit? Their website says Triumph parts take an extra 10 days. I'll call them tomorrow. Thanks!

[cug]

Originally Posted by av_mech

So you've had good luck with bike bandit? Their website says Triumph parts take an extra 10 days. I'll call them tomorrow. Thanks!

I've bought a few things from them - it takes longer because they order a lot of stuff only from the distributor when the order comes in to them. I just try to plan ahead. Did buy quite some stuff when I outfitted my WR250 and had good experience with them.

Haven't bought Triumph parts from them yet. Don't have the Tiger long enough.

[The Mountain]

Originally Posted by blacktiger

I believe you can specify Metzeller Karoo tyres as an option but they're fitted during PDI and they're also limited to 60mph according to the handbook. IMO you're better off getting the bike and fitting your own choice of tyre, yourself.

Originally Posted by fbj913

You can get whatever tires you want. The dealer should be able to hook it up.

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

If you go back and look at a few of the launch videos done by various Magazines (like MCN) you can see that on day two all the press bikes wheels were swapped out with knobbies. Not sure which ones. Maybe TKC 80's, maybe Karoo's. Not sure. There is that low speed disclaimer, but that's just the lawyers talking. Put on whatever tires you can get. Plenty of choices now: Conti TKC 80, Karoo, T63, MT21, Kenda Big Block and a few others.

I really wish it were that simple, but I live in India. "Real" motorcycle tires are few and far between, since 99% of the bikes here are little titchy things e.g. 125cc, 130cc. The "big" bikes here are 220cc, or 350 if you want a Royal Enfield. I can't get Continental, Metzeler or Pirelli here at all (to say nothing of Maxxis, Kenda, or, god forbid, MEFO or Heidenau), and what I've seen of the brands like Michelin, Bridgestone and Dunlop indicates that they're just going to stock the OEM tires for the "big bikes". As such, I'm pretty much going to be stuck with whatever Triumph decides to fit on the bikes at the factory. That's why I had my hopes raised when the Triumph website configurator showed the Tiger with knobbies already fitted.

[Adv Grifter]

Originally Posted by bluesman

For those Tiger owners, who gets "oh, but it is not KTM" from orange guys - radiator on Tiger made by KTM
Yes, radiators is KTM side business..some aprilias got those too.
It is stamped on radiator

Triumph have used KTM radiators from the start. I saw them being unpacked and sorted when at the Triumph factory in '03. IIRC, KTM were making radiators before they made Motorcycles. Anyone confirm?

[cug]

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

IIRC, KTM were making radiators before they made Motorcycles. Anyone confirm?

Doesn't sound like it from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM

But it's not clear from the article.

[Adv Grifter]

Originally Posted by The Mountain

I really wish it were that simple, but I live in India. "Real" motorcycle tires are few and far between, since 99% of the bikes here are little titchy things e.g. 125cc, 130cc. The "big" bikes here are 220cc, or 350 if you want a Royal Enfield. I can't get Continental, Metzeler or Pirelli here at all (to say nothing of Maxxis, Kenda, or, god forbid, MEFO or Heidenau), and what I've seen of the brands like Michelin, Bridgestone and Dunlop indicates that they're just going to stock the OEM tires for the "big bikes". As such, I'm pretty much going to be stuck with whatever Triumph decides to fit on the bikes at the factory. That's why I had my hopes raised when the Triumph website configurator showed the Tiger with knobbies already fitted.

If you're willing to pay $23,000 USD for a Tiger 800 ... then should not be bothered spending $1000 on a tire! (just kidding mate)
Me thinks if I was in India I'd be on one of those cool new Pulsars or 125 or 250 KTM's I've seen in the magazines.

Surprised none of the Asian choices in MC tires are there. Shinko,
Chen Sen, Duro, Kenda ... and a few more. Also surprised India has not got into producing high quality tires for export for cars and motorcycles.
Also, Triumph are building a "new" Tiger Cub ... and I believe its being produced in India. Not sure on details but just saw a write up in Motorcycle Sport & Leisure about it.

[Adv Grifter]

Originally Posted by cug

Doesn't sound like it from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM

But it's not clear from the article.

http://www.economypoint.org/k/ktm-mo...ufacturer.html

Bit if info here on KTM. Looks like they started making rads after one of the
several re-organizations. Not really a smooth road, that's for sure.

"1954 begin the series production of motorcycles, whereby the enterprise almost all components, as produces brakes and radiator. The engines came from Puch, for the export variants of Fichtel & Sachs."

"KTM radiator GmbH

KTM radiator develops and produces since 1984 cooling systems for the automobile and motorcycle industry as well as for stationary plants.
At the production location Mattighofen/Austria are busy over 350 coworkers. Additionally KTM radiator maintains selling partnerships in Germany, Italy and the USA."

[The Mountain]

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

If you're willing to pay $23,000 USD for a Tiger 800 ... then should not be bothered spending $1000 on a tire! (just kidding mate)
Me thinks if I was in India I'd be on one of those cool new Pulsars or 125 or 250 KTM's I've seen in the magazines.

Surprised none of the Asian choices in MC tires are there. Shinko,
Chen Sen, Duro, Kenda ... and a few more. Also surprised India has not got into producing high quality tires for export for cars and motorcycles.
Also, Triumph are building a "new" Tiger Cub ... and I believe its being produced in India. Not sure on details but just saw a write up in Motorcycle Sport & Leisure about it.

Actually, I think Cheng Shin is available here. The problem is not brand per se (though I'd much rather be able to put even TKCs on than try Shinko, based on what I read in that tire thread over in the oilhead forum), it's size. Almost no one here carries the big sizes that the Tiger uses.

Also, gotta say that from what I've seen of the Pulsar line, reliability is not (yet) Bajaj's strong suit. Yes, the new KTM Duke is pretty decent, and I've actually debated whether or not to get one. The problem is that I do want to be able to go on longer rides now and then, to say nothing of being able to ride at close to 100km/h, without having to have the engine near or at redline. Doing 4 hours on the highway on a 200cc bike would be torture .

[blacktiger]

Originally Posted by swimmer

K&N have a pretty shitty reputation for air filters. Flows good amount of air but filtering is not great. I've read enough that NFW I'd use on any vehicle I own. Just one dipshits opinion.

Although I've run one on my 955 for 36000 miles and everything is still sweet. And prior to that 40000 miles on a R100GS.

For the 800 which is going to be ridden in dirt and dust more, I've fitted a DNA filter (same type as K&N) along with the Uni pre-filter. The reasoning being; the pre-filter takes out 95% of the dust and the low maintenance DNA catches what's left. The pre-filter is accessible for cleaning and the DNA stays put for years.

[blacktiger]

Originally Posted by The Mountain

I really wish it were that simple, but I live in India. "Real" motorcycle tires are few and far between, since 99% of the bikes here are little titchy things e.g. 125cc, 130cc. The "big" bikes here are 220cc, or 350 if you want a Royal Enfield. I can't get Continental, Metzeler or Pirelli here at all (to say nothing of Maxxis, Kenda, or, god forbid, MEFO or Heidenau), and what I've seen of the brands like Michelin, Bridgestone and Dunlop indicates that they're just going to stock the OEM tires for the "big bikes". As such, I'm pretty much going to be stuck with whatever Triumph decides to fit on the bikes at the factory. That's why I had my hopes raised when the Triumph website configurator showed the Tiger with knobbies already fitted.

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

Also surprised India has not got into producing high quality tires for export for cars and motorcycles.

Thinking about it, I bought some Continental inner tubes a while back and they were made in India. Maybe contact Conti India and see if they can get you some TKC80.

[The Mountain]

Originally Posted by blacktiger

Thinking about it, I bought some Continental inner tubes a while back and they were made in India. Maybe contact Conti India and see if they can get you some TKC80.

Conti is partnered up with MRF here. I did contact them, and from what I could gather, the only tires they have available here are for heavy trucks. The tube you got is probably just a rebranded MRF, and tubes don't require the same manufacturing complexity that speed-rated motorcycle tires do, so they can make lots of different sizes.

[blacktiger]

Originally Posted by The Mountain

Conti is partnered up with MRF here. I did contact them, and from what I could gather, the only tires they have available here are for heavy trucks. The tube you got is probably just a rebranded MRF, and tubes don't require the same manufacturing complexity that speed-rated motorcycle tires do, so they can make lots of different sizes.

I was thinking that if you asked nicely they might get some in for you.

[Snapper]

Originally Posted by skysailor

The non-XC is still looking pretty tempting. Can't see the advantage to the XC if I don't go off road, at all?

Difference between tubeless vs tube tires is huge... also available front tires (and their profiles) can be a big difference - as an example, I ran a Anakee2 100-90/19 H rated (bias ply?) and hit the side wear bars in 2.5k. Replaced with an Anakee2 110-80/19 Z rated (radial) and I'm now at 4k with barely noticeable wear. Not to mention that the sidewall tread on the narrower tire was much more limited.

However if you're a real scratcher, the non-XC has pretty crappy ground clearance.... seriously, it's worse than my previous Harley (XR).