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Old 05-24-2012, 12:28 AM   #12856
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If you're willing to pay $23,000 USD for a Tiger 800 ... then should not be bothered spending $1000 on a tire! (just kidding mate)
Me thinks if I was in India I'd be on one of those cool new Pulsars or 125 or 250 KTM's I've seen in the magazines.

Surprised none of the Asian choices in MC tires are there. Shinko,
Chen Sen, Duro, Kenda ... and a few more. Also surprised India has not got into producing high quality tires for export for cars and motorcycles.
Also, Triumph are building a "new" Tiger Cub ... and I believe its being produced in India. Not sure on details but just saw a write up in Motorcycle Sport & Leisure about it.
Actually, I think Cheng Shin is available here. The problem is not brand per se (though I'd much rather be able to put even TKCs on than try Shinko, based on what I read in that tire thread over in the oilhead forum), it's size. Almost no one here carries the big sizes that the Tiger uses.

Also, gotta say that from what I've seen of the Pulsar line, reliability is not (yet) Bajaj's strong suit. Yes, the new KTM Duke is pretty decent, and I've actually debated whether or not to get one. The problem is that I do want to be able to go on longer rides now and then, to say nothing of being able to ride at close to 100km/h, without having to have the engine near or at redline. Doing 4 hours on the highway on a 200cc bike would be torture .
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:06 AM   #12857
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K&N have a pretty shitty reputation for air filters. Flows good amount of air but filtering is not great. I've read enough that NFW I'd use on any vehicle I own. Just one dipshits opinion.
Although I've run one on my 955 for 36000 miles and everything is still sweet. And prior to that 40000 miles on a R100GS.

For the 800 which is going to be ridden in dirt and dust more, I've fitted a DNA filter (same type as K&N) along with the Uni pre-filter. The reasoning being; the pre-filter takes out 95% of the dust and the low maintenance DNA catches what's left. The pre-filter is accessible for cleaning and the DNA stays put for years.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:12 AM   #12858
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I really wish it were that simple, but I live in India. "Real" motorcycle tires are few and far between, since 99% of the bikes here are little titchy things e.g. 125cc, 130cc. The "big" bikes here are 220cc, or 350 if you want a Royal Enfield. I can't get Continental, Metzeler or Pirelli here at all (to say nothing of Maxxis, Kenda, or, god forbid, MEFO or Heidenau), and what I've seen of the brands like Michelin, Bridgestone and Dunlop indicates that they're just going to stock the OEM tires for the "big bikes". As such, I'm pretty much going to be stuck with whatever Triumph decides to fit on the bikes at the factory. That's why I had my hopes raised when the Triumph website configurator showed the Tiger with knobbies already fitted.
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Also surprised India has not got into producing high quality tires for export for cars and motorcycles.
Thinking about it, I bought some Continental inner tubes a while back and they were made in India. Maybe contact Conti India and see if they can get you some TKC80.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:29 AM   #12859
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Thinking about it, I bought some Continental inner tubes a while back and they were made in India. Maybe contact Conti India and see if they can get you some TKC80.
Conti is partnered up with MRF here. I did contact them, and from what I could gather, the only tires they have available here are for heavy trucks. The tube you got is probably just a rebranded MRF, and tubes don't require the same manufacturing complexity that speed-rated motorcycle tires do, so they can make lots of different sizes.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:09 AM   #12860
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Conti is partnered up with MRF here. I did contact them, and from what I could gather, the only tires they have available here are for heavy trucks. The tube you got is probably just a rebranded MRF, and tubes don't require the same manufacturing complexity that speed-rated motorcycle tires do, so they can make lots of different sizes.
I was thinking that if you asked nicely they might get some in for you.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:25 AM   #12861
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The non-XC is still looking pretty tempting. Can't see the advantage to the XC if I don't go off road, at all?
Difference between tubeless vs tube tires is huge... also available front tires (and their profiles) can be a big difference - as an example, I ran a Anakee2 100-90/19 H rated (bias ply?) and hit the side wear bars in 2.5k. Replaced with an Anakee2 110-80/19 Z rated (radial) and I'm now at 4k with barely noticeable wear. Not to mention that the sidewall tread on the narrower tire was much more limited.

However if you're a real scratcher, the non-XC has pretty crappy ground clearance.... seriously, it's worse than my previous Harley (XR).
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:44 AM   #12862
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Difference between tubeless vs tube tires is huge... also available front tires (and their profiles) can be a big difference - as an example, I ran a Anakee2 100-90/19 H rated (bias ply?) and hit the side wear bars in 2.5k. Replaced with an Anakee2 110-80/19 Z rated (radial) and I'm now at 4k with barely noticeable wear. Not to mention that the sidewall tread on the narrower tire was much more limited.

However if you're a real scratcher, the non-XC has pretty crappy ground clearance.... seriously, it's worse than my previous Harley (XR).
Umm. Really? I ride with a Daytona 675, a Daytona 955, a Hypermotard 796 and a couple Aprilia's. I don't have any problems in the corners keeping up with them. I have caught the end of the sidestand a few times but I also have a bigger pad on it than stock.
Maybe I just hang off more than most?

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Old 05-24-2012, 06:33 AM   #12863
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So you've had good luck with bike bandit? Their website says Triumph parts take an extra 10 days. I'll call them tomorrow. Thanks!
BB can get Tiger 800 parts, but the parts catalog is not yet on their site. You can find it below. Put it in your cart, then click on the part to the the Triumph Part number: http://www.worldoftriumph.com/triump...odel_id=560040
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:32 AM   #12864
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BB can get Tiger 800 parts, but the parts catalog is not yet on their site.
It is on the site for a while now.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #12865
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It is on the site for a while now.
You are correct. My mistake.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:43 AM   #12866
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Umm. Really? I ride with a Daytona 675, a Daytona 955, a Hypermotard 796 and a couple Aprilia's. I don't have any problems in the corners keeping up with them. I have caught the end of the sidestand a few times but I also have a bigger pad on it than stock.
Maybe I just hang off more than most?

Jim
+1 on that.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:15 AM   #12867
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Got my Madstad screen installed yesterday. Good quality stuff here, and a breeze to install. I could of used this on my trip to Flagstaff, did 1,200 miles - 75% of the time in horrid wind.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:41 AM   #12868
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Umm. Really? I ride with a Daytona 675, a Daytona 955, a Hypermotard 796 and a couple Aprilia's. I don't have any problems in the corners keeping up with them. I have caught the end of the sidestand a few times but I also have a bigger pad on it than stock.
Maybe I just hang off more than most?

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Or maybe you have to ride to Georgia to find a corner? The only time I got to ride twisties in Fla was at the race track in West Palm.

Off roading was good practice for learning sand riding. I had a Husky 5 speed Auto, a hoot in Sugar Sand.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:42 AM   #12869
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Got my Madstad screen installed yesterday. Good quality stuff here, and a breeze to install. I could of used this on my trip to Flagstaff, did 1,200 miles - 75% of the time in horrid wind.


Never saw anybody set one upright like that. I should think you might get some buffeting with the screen being so far away from your helmet.
I rake mine at just a smige more upright than the black plate for speed (touring) runs, same as black plate for local riding.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:16 AM   #12870
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Umm. Really? I ride with a Daytona 675, a Daytona 955, a Hypermotard 796 and a couple Aprilia's. I don't have any problems in the corners keeping up with them. I have caught the end of the sidestand a few times but I also have a bigger pad on it than stock.
Maybe I just hang off more than most?

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We all know riding has less to do with the bike, than it does with the rider. I ride a lot of tight technical stuff where the best bike would probably be a <500cc super motard, and I do get my butt off the seat. Over the last decade, I've owned a R1100S, R1150GS, WR250X, XR1200, and T800. Only ever touched hard parts down on the last two bikes, and most frequently on the Tiger, and I'd argue that I've been slowing down (getting old). Weighing in at 150lbs, I've always set my unladened preload to <25%.... on the Tiger, I'm starting to bump that up to 30-45%... not ideal as the rear starts to feel too stiff vs the front.

To say it has less clearance than a "Harley" may seem like a cut.... but the XR was one hell of cornering demon - here's a typical tire off that bike Clicky.
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