The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest - Page 116

Emoto · 05-09-2012, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Agile? I have to admit I had not ridden one, but if they are anything like the 750 Nighthawk, they are neither quick nor agile IMHO. Maybe I just have a different level of expectations.

Jim

No, they're very different. Shorter wheelbase (IIRC) and faster steering.

thehomealien · 05-09-2012, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoto

Sorry, but having been a Honda mechanic when there were lots of these around and coming in for me to service, I thought the Nighthawks (CB650SC and CB700SC) were an excellent machine. Quite powerful, agile, responsive and fun to ride.

CB650SC? Powerful and fun, but not agile or responsive. Every non-cruiser I've ridden could run circles around my '84 Nighthawk.

Wait, what is this thread about?

bobobob · 05-09-2012, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Right, and about 80hp, and doggy. A far cry from a modern bike. What does the driveshaft have to do with anything? Apples to oranges anyhow.

Jim

At least get your info straight. They made about 55bhp at the rear wheel.
They weren't doggy in the context of their competition at the time.
Context, you've heard of that, haven't you?
I didn't say anything about them being a modern bike. It's 30 years old.
And unlike today's BMW's, 30 year old designed Honda's driveshafts didn't blow up.

It was a much more modern bike in respect to the issue of hydraulic valves that you brought up.
And Honda's didn't lose their throttle sync after a few thousand miles.

The worst thing about experts is that they can never accept that they aren't expert in all fields.
Enjoy your orange juice and apple sauce this morning.

JimVonBaden · 05-09-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bobobob

At least get your info straight. They made about 55bhp at the rear wheel.
They weren't doggy in the context of their competition at the time.
Context, you've heard of that, haven't you?
I didn't say anything about them being a modern bike. It's 30 years old.
And unlike today's BMW's, 30 year old designed Honda's driveshafts didn't blow up.

It was a much more modern bike in respect to the issue of hydraulic valves that you brought up.
And Honda's didn't lose their throttle sync after a few thousand miles.

The worst thing about experts is that they can never accept that they aren't expert in all fields.
Enjoy your orange juice and apple sauce this morning.

I got my information directly from a web site. 80 hp is what that site said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB700SC

The R1200 series TB sync almost never goes out, and the newer bikes rarely need a valve adjust.

Oh, and speaking of correct information, that much overused photo as an example of a burned up FD is BS too. The brake rotor overheated and caught the gaitor on fire. Not a FD failure that the haters like to claim.

So, you are right, "experts" surely do not know everything! Fortunately I never, ever, claimed to be an expert!

Jim

HateRyder · 05-09-2012, 08:28 AM

So, you are right, "experts" surely do not know everything! Fortunately I never, ever, claimed to be an expert!

Jim

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Just a bad ass!

tallguy-09 · 05-09-2012, 08:48 AM

I'm bored.
I want to read more about the R1250GS LC, can't wait to get one and start farkeling all over again :-)
How long before the accessories (seats, shields...) will be available?

Emoto · 05-09-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tallguy-09

I'm bored.
I want to read more about the R1250GS LC, can't wait to get one and start farkeling all over again :-)
How long before the accessories (seats, shields...) will be available?

I've heard rumors to the effect that outfits like Touratech get motorcycles in advance of public release in order to be able to design accessories. IF this is true, maybe contacting them would yield a little more info?

tallguy-09 · 05-09-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoto

I've heard rumors to the effect that outfits like Touratech get motorcycles in advance of public release in order to be able to design accessories. IF this is true, maybe contacting them would yield a little more info?

Apparently so :-) Somebody shall check out the containers at Touratech :-)

ragtoplvr · 05-09-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Emoto

I've heard rumors to the effect that outfits like Touratech get motorcycles in advance of public release in order to be able to design accessories. IF this is true, maybe contacting them would yield a little more info?

Having worked where we actually did get pre-release products to design parts for, the huge non-disclosure agreements would prevent anyone from answering.

Rod

EJ_92606 · 05-09-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bracky72

I like how the swing arm is displayed prominently when my bike is on the side stand. They switched sides so now it's hidden.

I agree...Can anyone figure out what the tacked on 2 pieces of metal is going to the front fork? I know this is pre-production, but just trying to understand what it could be for? Is it disguising the telelever?

JimVonBaden · 05-09-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Emoto

I've heard rumors to the effect that outfits like Touratech get motorcycles in advance of public release in order to be able to design accessories. IF this is true, maybe contacting them would yield a little more info?

That was how BMW handled the F800/650GS. Wouldn't surprise me. But they would be fools to leak info on it less they jeapordize the deal.

Jim

tallguy-09 · 05-09-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

That was how BMW handled the F800/650GS. Wouldn't surprise me. But they would be fools to leak info on it less they jeapordize the deal.

Jim

BMWleaks? I'm willing to listen

JimVonBaden · 05-09-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tallguy-09

BMWleaks? I'm willing to listen

Jim

Flightar · 05-12-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ_92606

I agree...Can anyone figure out what the tacked on 2 pieces of metal is going to the front fork? I know this is pre-production, but just trying to understand what it could be for? Is it disguising the telelever?

It's not going to the fork. It's mounted to the lower edge of the radiator shroud, side pod, or whatever you want to call it. It also looks like it has some sort of sensor mounted as there appears to be a wire and a zip tie.

Dorsicano · 05-25-2012, 06:34 AM

This is very quiet... whatever happened to DasMatti, our man in München?

The dealer in Luxembourg told me das wasserboxer will not reach clients until 2014... Grosse disappointment, man.

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Dorsicano ^OP Adventurer Joined: Nov 2010 Location: Grand Duchy Oddometer: 82	DasM ? This is very quiet... whatever happened to DasMatti, our man in München? The dealer in Luxembourg told me das wasserboxer will not reach clients until 2014... Grosse disappointment, man.

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05-09-2012, 08:48 AM	#1731
tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Vancouver Oddometer: 1,375	I'm bored. I want to read more about the R1250GS LC, can't wait to get one and start farkeling all over again :-) How long before the accessories (seats, shields...) will be available?