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Old 05-26-2012, 10:56 PM   #211
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To change the oil on a BMW F650GS you have to

unbolt the faux gas tank left side cover -- 5 bolts

unbolt the splash guard == 3 bolts

unbolt the front sprocket cover (to get to the filter insert) -- three bolts

unbolt the filter insert cover -- three bolts

Drain the oil tank

Drain the engine -- drain plug

Change the filter insert

fill it with oil

bolt everything back again (14 or so bolts)

Why BMW? Why?

====Yamaha -- 1 drain plug and unscrew the filter -- 10 minutes and done.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:13 PM   #212
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To change the oil on a BMW F650GS you have to

unbolt the faux gas tank left side cover -- 5 bolts

unbolt the splash guard == 3 bolts

unbolt the front sprocket cover (to get to the filter insert) -- three bolts

unbolt the filter insert cover -- three bolts

Drain the oil tank

Drain the engine -- drain plug

Change the filter insert

fill it with oil

bolt everything back again (14 or so bolts)

Why BMW? Why?

====Yamaha -- 1 drain plug and unscrew the filter -- 10 minutes and done.
I thought mine was bad... my goodness.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:50 AM   #213
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Why is every Ducati you'd actually want to buy so uncomfortable you can't actually enjoy riding it?

and +1 on the BMW oil changes for bikes with fairings...
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:30 AM   #214
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Why is every Ducati you'd actually want to buy so uncomfortable you can't actually enjoy riding it?
Mine's OK. Maybe you picked the wrong ones to ride.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:01 AM   #215
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Mine's OK. Maybe you picked the wrong ones to ride.
Same here, I can put 700+ mile days on mine without becoming a cripple.
I'm not saying I enjoy the last hour of the ride but I still smile when I look at the bike as I get off it.

Only thing I hate about my stuff is that I don't get the time to ride them more.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:56 AM   #216
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700+ mile days on a Monster 620? As in more than one in a row? Pics or it didn't happen...

I was referring to the sportier models though in general. Even the STXs were bad compared to the BMWs I've ridden, even the sportier ones.

I could ride my GS halfway across the US before I reach the levels of discomfort that any of the Ducatis I own or owned in the past would reach after more than an hour in the saddle. They are very cramped for long-legged folks, just sayin'
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:02 AM   #217
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700+ mile days on a Monster 620? As in more than one in a row? Pics or it didn't happen...

I was referring to the sportier models though in general. Even the STXs were bad compared to the BMWs I've ridden, even the sportier ones.

I could ride my GS halfway across the US before I reach the levels of discomfort that any of the Ducatis I own or owned in the past would reach after more than an hour in the saddle. They are very cramped for long-legged folks, just sayin'
Didn't do it in a row because 700+ has so far put me from either home to a destination or back.
So it was more like that mileage to NC, 300+ mile days while there and then the 780 miles home at the end of the week.
I guess if I tried a cross country trip then I could see if my body would be up to it.
It helps that I think I'm the body type they use to design these things. I'm 5'9" and around 150-160 lbs.
To make it even better, I still have the stock seat on the Monster too, never got around to getting a different one.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:23 PM   #218
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Stock seat on my Hypermotard is actually pretty good. I guess its all relative. You want uncomfortable, get on most dirt bikes. Or that stock horror on the F800 GS. Not only was the shape all screwed up, that material was some left over Nazi torture instrument. Makes me want to kiss my Renazco every time I see it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:21 AM   #219
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To change the oil on a BMW F650GS you have to

unbolt the faux gas tank left side cover -- 5 bolts

unbolt the splash guard == 3 bolts

unbolt the front sprocket cover (to get to the filter insert) -- three bolts

unbolt the filter insert cover -- three bolts

Drain the oil tank

Drain the engine -- drain plug

Change the filter insert

fill it with oil

bolt everything back again (14 or so bolts)

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All of which takes less than a minute.
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:21 AM   #220
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Ride a road bicycle for a while and then every motorcycle seat is a gift from Zeus.

I used to ride road bikes at a low competitive level (think 6 - 10 hr training rides) after that the stock seat on my 125 feels like a lazy boy, I have done 14hr days for multiple days on it. Those training rides on road bicycles are also good for trimming the waist which helps to reduce some of the pressure.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:37 AM   #221
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To change the oil on a BMW F650GS you have to

unbolt the faux gas tank left side cover -- 5 bolts

unbolt the splash guard == 3 bolts

unbolt the front sprocket cover (to get to the filter insert) -- three bolts

unbolt the filter insert cover -- three bolts

Drain the oil tank

Drain the engine -- drain plug

Change the filter insert

fill it with oil

bolt everything back again (14 or so bolts)

Why BMW? Why?

====Yamaha -- 1 drain plug and unscrew the filter -- 10 minutes and done.

Oh my GOD.....Should you even change oil Maybe you don't its BMW
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:29 PM   #222
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I agree about the sound of a CB350, but it's not the exhaust note; it's that extra sewing machine motor sitting above the gas one that has driven me crazy for tens of thousands of miles.

The '86 Savage that had no kickback relief in the starter clutch gearing. With that big 650cc piston, turning it off and hoping it would not catch and spin backwards and tear the starter out of the engine case was a lot of fun. I got in the habit of releasing the clutch until I just started getting resistance, then killing the motor. They wised up on later models.

Yeah, I didn't like the idea of the fake Bonnie" carbs", but I got over it when I found one with Arrow two-into-ones with less than 3,500 miles for three grand less than new. ;) However, the Arrows are a Triumph option, yet the centerstand will not work with them and Triumph offers no solution.

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Old 07-31-2012, 11:42 PM   #224
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lack of a 6th gear on the DRZ.
I was thinking the same exact thing... wtf are they thinking.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:55 AM   #225
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To change the oil on a BMW F650GS you have to

unbolt the faux gas tank left side cover -- 5 bolts

unbolt the splash guard == 3 bolts

unbolt the front sprocket cover (to get to the filter insert) -- three bolts

unbolt the filter insert cover -- three bolts

Drain the oil tank

Drain the engine -- drain plug

Change the filter insert

fill it with oil

bolt everything back again (14 or so bolts)

Why BMW? Why?

====Yamaha -- 1 drain plug and unscrew the filter -- 10 minutes and done.
Sounds familiar, i've got 990 adv, and while the oil change is 'interesting', i wouldnt buy a different bike because of it, as some people have.
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