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Old 05-30-2012, 06:24 PM   #23986
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Got out for another ride. Hotter than Sunday and windy again.

That left me sore. I used up two bottles of nuun, and four of water. Only ate two Chomps.
Had to stop about a mile from home in some shade for a few minutes.
When I got home I pulled the junk out of my pockets kicked off my shoes and socks re-loaded a bottle with ice and water and hit the pool. That started to get me cooled down. Two bottles of water and two big glasses of water later I am feeling not too bad.
The good news is my back doesn't hurt. Bad news is the damned toilet tank leaks.

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Cool maps. How hot does it get out there now?

Most important tip I got from pro racers are "miles not speed, makes you fast!" so be easy on yourself and try to enjoy it without taking the last 10 miles home in an whambalance

I have just now started up again. I got so tired of the way people were treating bicyclist and how the roads got worse and worse (potholes deep enough for spelunking) so I stayed with my motorcycle. At least you can accelerate out of trouble on those. But I've been riding since I was a kid and I really miss it when I don't, so I'm back and have found a route that's okay for now. Problem is, it's tourist season here in Maine soon and that means car drivers from other parts of the US whom are not, how should I put it, proficient, yeah, good word, whom are not proficient in controlling a vehicle on narrow roads while looking at our breathtaking scenery.
But, I'm back and I'm taking it easy because I don't want to break something (I'm getting older) and because I would like a full season with lots of miles and smile. I would like a new bike though, my Cannondale is 11 years old, looks new, but, you know....

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Old 05-30-2012, 06:39 PM   #23987
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Was granny gearing up my favorite trail last week, very steep and rocky. Heard metal break, pedals kept moving but I stopped moving. Ended up blowing out my freewheel hub. Bike is now in the shop... Worth upgrading to a better freewheel for around two hundred bucks?? This is a 2012 giant reign 2, not clear yet if giant will warranty the hub, but my thought is if it has happened once, it will again if I go back to the stock hub.


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Old 05-30-2012, 07:08 PM   #23988
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Was granny gearing up my favorite trail last week, very steep and rocky. Heard metal break, pedals kept moving but I stopped moving. Ended up blowing out my freewheel hub. Bike is now in the shop... Worth upgrading to a better freewheel for around two hundred bucks?? This is a 2012 giant reign 2, not clear yet if giant will warranty the hub, but my thought is if it has happened once, it will again if I go back to the stock hub.
Nice bike. Looks like it would soak up everything.

I'm a big fan of Chris King hubs but they are spendy. Hope hubs are pretty bombproof but they are the straight pipes of the bike world. Loud hubs saves lives! I have two friends that have been riding them for a couple of years with zero issues. You can get a rear Hope Pro II for $170 delivered from wiggle.com in the uk with free shipping vs mid $200s from US stores. Or you can go with an XT hub which is a step up the food chain from what you have now and I bet your shop has it in stock.

What type of hub are they suggesting? Does the $200 include rebuilding the wheel or is that the hub price?
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:44 AM   #23989
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This isn't mine but same spec as this one, weighs a ton, 8ichs travel front and rear and rides smooth as.

haven't read through all these posts but just seeing how many other DH guys are out there
That frame looks like it's built for an elephant.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:46 AM   #23990
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Was granny gearing up my favorite trail last week, very steep and rocky. Heard metal break, pedals kept moving but I stopped moving. Ended up blowing out my freewheel hub.
n00b question: what is a freewheel hub, and how do they break? I've heard of people breaking chains, but never hubs.
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:15 AM   #23991
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Nice bike. Looks like it would soak up everything.

I'm a big fan of Chris King hubs but they are spendy. Hope hubs are pretty bombproof but they are the straight pipes of the bike world. Loud hubs saves lives! I have two friends that have been riding them for a couple of years with zero issues. You can get a rear Hope Pro II for $170 delivered from wiggle.com in the uk with free shipping vs mid $200s from US stores. Or you can go with an XT hub which is a step up the food chain from what you have now and I bet your shop has it in stock.

What type of hub are they suggesting? Does the $200 include rebuilding the wheel or is that the hub price?

Hey man, thanks for the reply. The XT hub is what they were suggesting, and the $200 includes rebuilding the rear wheel with that hub, or $75 for the stock free hub with a rebuild. I would upgrade to a Chris King or similar, but I'm really just looking for something that won't break again anytime soon, I've spent enough cash on this bike as is. Would you say the CK is worth the price? I was really hoping to spend money upgrading brakes before a freehub. Elixir 1s suck!
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:33 AM   #23992
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Hey man, thanks for the reply. The XT hub is what they were suggesting, and the $200 includes rebuilding the rear wheel with that hub, or $75 for the stock free hub with a rebuild. I would upgrade to a Chris King or similar, but I'm really just looking for something that won't break again anytime soon, I've spent enough cash on this bike as is. Would you say the CK is worth the price? I was really hoping to spend money upgrading brakes before a freehub. Elixir 1s suck!
You can find a decent rear wheel on ebay or CL for way less than $200. If you weren't running discs, I'd sell you my wheelset. Cross-somethings-Ceramics. They're the Cross?Country? because they've got steel not AL spokes.

...but you're running discs, so that's out.

I'm a fan of loose ball hubs. Keep em maintained and they'll outlast your bike. Ain't that right Mr Head?

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Old 05-31-2012, 07:01 AM   #23993
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Gummee, won't most wheels on ebay or craigslist have similar (lower) strength hubs?
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:04 AM   #23994
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Gummee, won't most wheels on ebay or craigslist have similar (lower) strength hubs?
Depends on the wheelset.

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Old 05-31-2012, 08:16 AM   #23995
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n00b question: what is a freewheel hub, and how do they break? I've heard of people breaking chains, but never hubs.
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Hey man, thanks for the reply. The XT hub is what they were suggesting, and the $200 includes rebuilding the rear wheel with that hub, or $75 for the stock free hub with a rebuild. I would upgrade to a Chris King or similar, but I'm really just looking for something that won't break again anytime soon, I've spent enough cash on this bike as is. Would you say the CK is worth the price? I was really hoping to spend money upgrading brakes before a freehub. Elixir 1s suck!
For Shimano hubs, you can replace the freehub body:


It's held onto the hub by a hollow allen bolt (10mm?). You have to pull out the axle and bearings, then unscrew the bolt. After that, you drop the replacement on and reassemble. IIRC, there are only a couple of options for shimano freehub bodies - but they are fairly durable. You broke the "dog"s, but they probably trashed the springs and damaged the pockets in the center section.

Here's the DIY: http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html#transplant



I broke a DT hub this way once, but it failed due to heat treat issues and was warrantied. Got a new hub - I did the wheelbuild. The shimano freehub failures I've seen have all been due to lack of maintenance over time - and it's a PITA to get to the ratchet on these. Best bet is a Morningstar Freehub Buddy, which allows you to push solvent or lube thru the freehub and take care of the ratchet and the two sets of loose ball bearings in there. But you have to strip it down just as far to maintain it as to replace it.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:14 AM   #23996
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Hey, 3260 as of yesterday morning. 339 miles in April. 910 total for 2012. I should be at 1166, but I made a little progres this month.
3737 as of this morning's ride. 477 in May! Highlights included a 75 mile day and an impromptu 1 hour time trial (I got a late start this morning) that netted me 19.25 miles. I'm at 1387 for 2012. I should be at 1458, but goddammit, that's progress! As far as my 1012 goals, a century is looking pretty damn doable. My 3500 mile goal looks legit, barring disaster. 20 miles in an hour is still looking pretty sketchy. I can cruise along OK between 19 mph and 20 mph, but someone drops a load of bricks on me at 20.1.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:16 AM   #23997
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Hey man, thanks for the reply. The XT hub is what they were suggesting, and the $200 includes rebuilding the rear wheel with that hub, or $75 for the stock free hub with a rebuild. I would upgrade to a Chris King or similar, but I'm really just looking for something that won't break again anytime soon, I've spent enough cash on this bike as is. Would you say the CK is worth the price? I was really hoping to spend money upgrading brakes before a freehub. Elixir 1s suck!
I've had my CKs for 4 years. I originally had them in a 26er wheelset and then used them for my 29er build. They have been great. I had to adjust them once during the first month as they broke in and I haven't touched them since. They are worth it if you are going to keep them for a long time. If you are just trying to get your bike going again and want something you don't have to worry about I'd say the XTs are good enough.

However Gummee brings up a good point about ebay. I would get your existing hub fixed under warranty and then sell the wheelset. You can find a complete front and rear wheelset for $200 with XT hubs. Velocity and Mavic rims are good. DT Swiss wheelsets are good too. I would stay away from complete Mavic wheelsets though. They look cool but I broke several spokes (proprietary spokes) and my buddy trashed his freehub three times.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:24 AM   #23998
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Went up to Ohio to see my nephew off to the air force this past weekend. For the heck of it I tossed the poprad into the trunk of the rental car. Stayed in Fancy Gap Virginia thursday eve and was hoping to pedal a bit of the blue ridge friday morning. But there was pea soup fog when I woke up friday. Got a couple rides in around my parents house in Ohio. Was nice to pedal the roads I did as a youngster. Even found a gravel rail trail while out on a road ride that was a nice change. The rolling hills were kicking my arse good. Note to self do not eat a Mr Hero Romanburger a few hours prior to pedaling...
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:30 AM   #23999
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Once upon a time I raced bicycles and was pretty good at training and not so much at the racing part since I'd used up my competition gene somewhere around 13. I started racing bicycles in my early 30's. I was lucky to be in Colorado and because I began from working as a motorcycle marshal with the Coors Classic I gained access to a lot of great information and training. That made for learning not only how to train but how to recover from training and injury. I got to ride with some pretty special folks and got a lot of great advice, training direction and how to set a bicycle up and why.
All that, as well as growing up a snow skiing and racing those and playing football. Football was stupid except for some of the conditioning, I learned soem stuff there. the rest of it was and is about the worst thing you can do to a body. But, I'll not climb too high on that horse.

The trick I know is that with my age, (59) recovery takes longer. and if I rush things it just makes it ultimately take even longer and hurt more.
So, yes I'm back to time in the saddle but at a sustained effort. Right now I try to keep my speed down around 15 mph for the first half hour to get good and warm. And chase as few rabbits as possible. That means I can stay in the saddle longer.

Monday was said to be mid 80's, but felt like 90's. I've ridden in over a hundred but being in condition makes a huge difference. When I was racing heat didn't bother me. I liked it hot and dry I seemed to ride a lot harder then.
The tough part in recovery is holding back. Right now I am real weak compared to where I was before my back went nuts. My back is just OK to ride not perfect so even pushing a little is a bad thing. The PT I was doing was useless. The usual hot pad with that electric muscle twitch thing. They added some homework, yoga stretches which are the only useful part of the program. I stopped going, I know I need to strengthen my core, but to do that I need to get my cycling back a good bit, with some walking at lunch and after work during the week. eventually I'll get back to riding the big hills and running. THat stuff builds my core back.

I am so far amazed that my so called "Cadillac Insurance" plan always finds useless stuff like this here. In Colorado I had basically the same thing with an HMO from BCBS Colorado so I went to my old sports medicine PT shop and paid cash. That was good stuff. They actually did sports work not some crystals and newage noise aroma therapy garbage.
My plan is to go on my own dime to a sports medicine doctor in Newport Beach a friend has used for opinion. Then I'll take a swipe at the insurance company.
In Colorado before I had the crappy HMO, I told my GP I wanted to go to Andy Pruit for an evaluation of my knee, and PT, and bike re-set. My doc didn't know of Andy so I showed him, pointing out the miles I put on the bike. he agreed and went to bat for me with the insurance company. I got re-habed and my bike set up and some home PT to do. A month later I was back in the saddle doing good miles. I'd blown up my bad knee at a timetrial where the wind kicked up big after the turn around.

So, now I'm back to slow and steady again. I will get back to all day in the saddle at a reasonable clip, and not feeling like I've been beaten afterward. Just takes some time. And I got some of that for now.
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