The Long Range Precision Shooting Thread - Page 5

pilotguy299 · 05-25-2012, 09:36 AM

Nemesis Arms Vanquish in .308 with a 20" barrel, Zeiss-Hensoldt 6-24x72 scope, and fed 175gr SMKs from Southwest Ammunition

no money left...

Weirdo · 05-25-2012, 10:36 AM

Remington 700 Compact Tactical in 308

Three shot group at 200 yards.

I'm looking for a good place to go out and see how far the gun is good for. The closest 1000 yard range is about a six hour drive, but I may be able to find a lonely spot to give it a go.

RED CAT · 05-25-2012, 03:45 PM

Santa comes at Christmas too!

doc_ricketts · 05-30-2012, 08:12 AM

Come on guys, lets see some guns or some groups. Whatsa matter, everybody broke?

beemerkid · 05-30-2012, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doc_ricketts

Come on guys, lets see some guns or some groups. Whatsa matter, everybody broke?

Ok a gun photo. Quick and dirty like. Remmington 700 in .300 Win Mag with a Vortex 4-12X30 scope and rings I dont remember what kind but theyre nicer than that scope needs. Not a super fancy set up but it gets the job done for me. I havent had the chance to take it to a real long distance range and get it all set up, but i did kill a caribou with it this winter.

Hay Ewe · 05-30-2012, 11:52 PM

WANT.
must stop looking at threads like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemerkid

Ok a gun photo.

beemerkid · 05-31-2012, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hay Ewe

WANT.
must stop looking at threads like this.

Thanks, I didnt really intend it to be an all blacked out job. I was just keeping it simple.

doc_ricketts · 05-31-2012, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemerkid

Ok a gun photo. Quick and dirty like. Remmington 700 in .300 Win Mag with a Vortex 4-12X30 scope and rings I dont remember what kind but theyre nicer than that scope needs. Not a super fancy set up but it gets the job done for me. I havent had the chance to take it to a real long distance range and get it all set up, but i did kill a caribou with it this winter.

Very nice. Don't need nothing else and if you shoot it on the range, I'll bet you find it does great. Now that you have scored with it, though, who cares?

doc_ricketts · 05-31-2012, 06:15 PM

I guess I will put up a little 'long distance' data. I had some issues with my Savage 12 in .308 and finally figured out that it was action screw torque values and barrel harmonics. Groups would wander with barrel temperatures and the wander didn't seem to be affected by load specifics. I finally figured out that the receiver front and rear screws must be torqued very accurately to specific specs (which are somewhat different than the 'factory'). More importantly, I made a slip on barrel tuner out of a piece of aluminum tubing and finally have it positioned just where the fluting meets the unfluted portion of the barrel.
The Savage is just like this one (don't have a ready picture to post):

Anyway, a little results data from 100 yds:

This is a typical, somewhat bad 3 shot group when the action screws are not torqued properly and somewhat loose.

Tighten the action screws to 20 inlb and much better:

Tighten more to 25 inlb front and 20 inlb rear and darn good:

Put tuner in under barrel and torque action screws 25/20 and consistently get results like this, with rapid fire, barrel heating, whatevuh:

Another interesting group with one shot at 50 yds and then moving to 100 yds with no scope adjustment and two shots on top of the first one:

AviatorTroy · 05-31-2012, 06:48 PM

My experiment at longer ranges...

Started out building more of a classic HBAR AR but went with a flat top receiver and detachable carry handle. Later went to a scope. I have a really nice forged one piece mount but the scope I have on there is a real POS that I just had laying around. If I can stop buying crap for my bikes I'll get a nice scope for it this summer. I'm amazed at how well this frankenrifle shoots. My best group with handloads is about 2 " at 200 yards but the group was 4 in a ragged hole with one flyer.

Bappo · 06-01-2012, 10:25 AM

F Class open (300 - 1600 yd): 6.5 Creedmoor 30" Bartlien barrel, remington action, Timney trigger, fitted birch laminate stock, Bushy Elite 6500 up to 30x scope, 20 MOA base.

F/TR (300 - 1000 yd): 308 29" Broughton barrel, Savage action, Rifle Basix trigger, McCree folding stock, Sinclair bipod, Viper Vortex PST 6.5x24 scope, 20 MOA base.

Savage LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor, VX3 6.5x20 varmint scope for anything and everything.

Cooper Phoenix in 204 Ruger Sightron Big Sky 6x24 for PD's, rock chucks, ground squirrels, etc.

AR 24" 223 varmint Vortex Viper 6x24, just cuz.

Pics sometime soon

Assuming I didn't lose everything in a tragic boating accident

Badge320 · 06-01-2012, 01:16 PM

Remington 700 .308 with Leupold scope that has been upgraded by Premier Reticle.

I have used this combination to make head shots at 600 yards.

The logbook has recorded every single round fired by the rifle. The Leupold laser range finder is a handy item to keep in my drag bag.

doc_ricketts · 06-02-2012, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Badge320

Remington 700 .308 with Leupold scope that has been upgraded by Premier Reticle.

I have used this combination to make head shots at 600 yards.

The logbook has recorded every single round fired by the rifle. The Leupold laser range finder is a handy item to keep in my drag bag.

Nice gun. Are you a police sniper in Beaumont? And were the head shots hogs or insurgents?

doc_ricketts · 06-14-2012, 07:45 PM

Very quiet on here so I will post a followup on the Savage 12BVSS .308 action screw sensitivity. Today after setting up at the Cascades Shooting Facility near Black Diamond, WA, I resighted the rifle/scope after travel from Colorado. Shot about six rounds getting zero back at 50 yds. Then moved to 100 yds and shot the three shot group below:

Great, but by that time the rifle had warmed up and the next group showed the effects of loosely torqued action screws:

But using the torque wrench I keep in my bag, reset the screws to 30 in/lb front and 25 in/lb back, so back on track:

Eventually I am going to switch to an aluminum block attachment to the stock and do more bedding, which should finally get this barrel and action to be consistent with round numbers.

tslewisz · 06-15-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by doc_ricketts

But using the torque wrench I keep in my bag, reset the screws to 30 ft/lb front and 25 ft/lb back, so back on track:

Foot-pounds? Really? IIRC the TQ for the screws in my Choate stock is 55-65 inch -pounds. That's an aluminum and composite stock as opposed to your wood laminate.

I have one of those .308's, too, BTW. Last weekend in NE shooting prairie dogs:

05-25-2012, 03:45 PM	#63
RED CAT Bumpy Backroader Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Western Canada Oddometer: 2,416	Ho, Ho, Ho! Santa comes at Christmas too!

05-30-2012, 08:12 AM	#64
doc_ricketts Thumper jockey Joined: Jul 2007 Location: FlaWaCo? Oddometer: 4,019	Come on guys, lets see some guns or some groups. Whatsa matter, everybody broke? __________________ "Get yourself to the hills and be uplifted, assuming you got some good knobbies"

05-31-2012, 06:15 PM	#69
doc_ricketts Thumper jockey Joined: Jul 2007 Location: FlaWaCo? Oddometer: 4,019	I guess I will put up a little 'long distance' data. I had some issues with my Savage 12 in .308 and finally figured out that it was action screw torque values and barrel harmonics. Groups would wander with barrel temperatures and the wander didn't seem to be affected by load specifics. I finally figured out that the receiver front and rear screws must be torqued very accurately to specific specs (which are somewhat different than the 'factory'). More importantly, I made a slip on barrel tuner out of a piece of aluminum tubing and finally have it positioned just where the fluting meets the unfluted portion of the barrel. The Savage is just like this one (don't have a ready picture to post): Anyway, a little results data from 100 yds: This is a typical, somewhat bad 3 shot group when the action screws are not torqued properly and somewhat loose. Tighten the action screws to 20 inlb and much better: Tighten more to 25 inlb front and 20 inlb rear and darn good: Put tuner in under barrel and torque action screws 25/20 and consistently get results like this, with rapid fire, barrel heating, whatevuh: Another interesting group with one shot at 50 yds and then moving to 100 yds with no scope adjustment and two shots on top of the first one: __________________ "Get yourself to the hills and be uplifted, assuming you got some good knobbies" doc_ricketts screwed with this post 05-31-2012 at 06:36 PM

06-14-2012, 07:45 PM	#74
doc_ricketts Thumper jockey Joined: Jul 2007 Location: FlaWaCo? Oddometer: 4,019	Very quiet on here so I will post a followup on the Savage 12BVSS .308 action screw sensitivity. Today after setting up at the Cascades Shooting Facility near Black Diamond, WA, I resighted the rifle/scope after travel from Colorado. Shot about six rounds getting zero back at 50 yds. Then moved to 100 yds and shot the three shot group below: Great, but by that time the rifle had warmed up and the next group showed the effects of loosely torqued action screws: But using the torque wrench I keep in my bag, reset the screws to 30 in/lb front and 25 in/lb back, so back on track: Eventually I am going to switch to an aluminum block attachment to the stock and do more bedding, which should finally get this barrel and action to be consistent with round numbers. __________________ "Get yourself to the hills and be uplifted, assuming you got some good knobbies" doc_ricketts screwed with this post 06-15-2012 at 08:13 AM

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05-25-2012, 09:36 AM	#61
pilotguy299 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Fredneck County Maryland Oddometer: 1,204	Nemesis Arms Vanquish in .308 with a 20" barrel, Zeiss-Hensoldt 6-24x72 scope, and fed 175gr SMKs from Southwest Ammunition no money left...

05-25-2012, 10:36 AM	#62
Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM" Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Prince Rupert BC Oddometer: 4,402	Remington 700 Compact Tactical in 308 Three shot group at 200 yards. I'm looking for a good place to go out and see how far the gun is good for. The closest 1000 yard range is about a six hour drive, but I may be able to find a lonely spot to give it a go.

05-31-2012, 06:48 PM	#70
AviatorTroy Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Cincinnati OH/Stuart FL Oddometer: 1,206	My experiment at longer ranges... Started out building more of a classic HBAR AR but went with a flat top receiver and detachable carry handle. Later went to a scope. I have a really nice forged one piece mount but the scope I have on there is a real POS that I just had laying around. If I can stop buying crap for my bikes I'll get a nice scope for it this summer. I'm amazed at how well this frankenrifle shoots. My best group with handloads is about 2 " at 200 yards but the group was 4 in a ragged hole with one flyer.

06-01-2012, 10:25 AM	#71
Bappo Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Idaho Falls Oddometer: 166	F Class open (300 - 1600 yd): 6.5 Creedmoor 30" Bartlien barrel, remington action, Timney trigger, fitted birch laminate stock, Bushy Elite 6500 up to 30x scope, 20 MOA base. F/TR (300 - 1000 yd): 308 29" Broughton barrel, Savage action, Rifle Basix trigger, McCree folding stock, Sinclair bipod, Viper Vortex PST 6.5x24 scope, 20 MOA base. Savage LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor, VX3 6.5x20 varmint scope for anything and everything. Cooper Phoenix in 204 Ruger Sightron Big Sky 6x24 for PD's, rock chucks, ground squirrels, etc. AR 24" 223 varmint Vortex Viper 6x24, just cuz. Pics sometime soon Assuming I didn't lose everything in a tragic boating accident

06-01-2012, 01:16 PM	#72
Badge320 Wild Hog No. 3 Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Beaumont, Texas Oddometer: 2,587	Remington 700 .308 with Leupold scope that has been upgraded by Premier Reticle. I have used this combination to make head shots at 600 yards. The logbook has recorded every single round fired by the rifle. The Leupold laser range finder is a handy item to keep in my drag bag.