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Old 06-04-2012, 05:42 PM   #1
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How to tell if a tire is tube or tubeless?

How do you find out if a tire is tube type or tubeless? The manufacturers websites don't seem to say anything and the only tire store that seems to include this info is bikebandit.com.

BikeBandit says that the Kenda Big Block is a tube only tire, but that the Scorpion Rally is tube or tubeless.

OTH, someone that seems knowledgeable on stromtrooper insists exactly the opposite.

Could you tell me where to find this info? Also, will the Kenda indeed work tubeless?

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Old 06-04-2012, 05:57 PM   #2
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According to this site it is.

Dennis Kirk lists it as tubeless as well as a post I found on stromtroopers.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:00 PM   #3
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Aren't all tubeless tires marked as such? I thought that's how the nomenclature worked--tube tires are unmarked, and tubeless are marked.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:17 PM   #4
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Aren't all tubeless tires marked as such? I thought that's how the nomenclature worked--tube tires are unmarked, and tubeless are marked.
I wouldn't know, but if they are marked, then how? Does the sidewall say "tubeless" or is there some letter designation to look for? Also, most websites don't show you what the sidewall says anyways, so how is one supposed to tell?

Also, since it seems to be a fairly important qualification, why don't most manufacturers & tire retail websites list this information?

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According to this site it is.

Dennis Kirk lists it as tubeless as well as a post I found on stromtroopers.
Is that the only way to tell, just keep looking at websites until a consensus is achieved? Do you know on the Scorpion Rally?

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Old 06-04-2012, 06:26 PM   #5
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I agree about the retailers telling you, but the Kenda website doesn't say, if you can't find the info there...

I just checked and the Kenda's I have on my CB say tubeless as well as the Metzlers on my K75, interestingly they (the Metzlers) also say to use a tube on a tube type rim.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:28 PM   #6
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I wouldn't know, but if they are marked, then how? Does the sidewall say "tubeless" or is there some letter designation to look for? Also, most websites don't show you what the sidewall says anyways, so how is one supposed to tell?

Also, since it seems to be a fairly important qualification, why don't most manufacturers & tire retail websites list this information?



Is that the only way to tell, just keep looking at websites until a consensus is achieved? Do you know on the Scorpion Rally?

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Dennis Kirk is usually one of the better info sites, and they list the Scorpion Rally as a tubeless, here.

I really thought the Pirelli site would have that info, but I can't find it. So I won't really fault Kenda for not having the info.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:43 PM   #7
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alot of times its marked on rims
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:23 PM   #8
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Dennis Kirk is usually one of the better info sites, and they list the Scorpion Rally as a tubeless, here.

I really thought the Pirelli site would have that info, but I can't find it. So I won't really fault Kenda for not having the info.
Yeah, I saw that after I checked your Kenda link. I don't understand how the vendors expect on to shop for tires w/o this info. I guess there are only a few tire sizes that cross over.

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alot of times its marked on rims
I am not exactly sure how something printed on a rim would ensure what type of tire is mounted, but I am wondering for shopping purposes and they sell the tires w/o any rim information.

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Old 06-04-2012, 11:02 PM   #9
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The sites I use will some times indicate TL in their tire description for tubeless . TT if tube type. You can run a tube in a tubeless tire but not visa versa.


Rims for tubeless tires have a bead channel and the tubeless tire should have a more pronounced bead than a tubed version.

The tire will have tubeless on the sidewall. The tire on my thumper says tube type, but I am not sure if all do that.

I just mounted a Scorpion Rally and it is marked Tubeless. I am running a tube in it on my spoked rim.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:38 PM   #10
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Look at your valve stem, does it come through the rim and lock with a nut or does it have the rubber sealing grommet on it.....
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The sites I use will some times indicate TL in their tire description for tubeless . TT if tube type. You can run a tube in a tubeless tire but not visa versa.
The tire will have tubeless on the sidewall. The tire on my thumper says tube type, but I am not sure if all do that.
I just mounted a Scorpion Rally and it is marked Tubeless. I am running a tube in it on my spoked rim.
Indeed, any Tubeless tire will have "TL" ; "Tubeless" or "For tubeless rim" in both sides. Tube type tires will have TT or nothing.
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isn't this guy is asking about tires not if his rims are tubeless or not?
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