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Old 06-05-2012, 09:43 AM   #5146
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Back to the headlights-off question. Any inmates from S. America know if it's still done?
I'm just spit-balling here but older cars had generators instead of todays modern alternators, generators will not make sufficient amps at low rpm, idle, to power the lights so the battery is getting drained at idle. Also, generators need a little voltage to "excite" them into working, produce amperage. So, if the battery gets too dead the generator won't come back on line. This would be worse on older, less maintained vehicles.

And, to get back on track.....

While putting my helmet on outside of an Autozone the other day...

Mullet head: (Looks up at storm clouds) Looks like it going to rain.

ME: (Looking up at storm clouds) Yup.

MH: I hope you not going too far.

ME: Baltimore, home, about 130 miles. (No, I did not ride 130 miles to get to the Autozone, its conveniently near my parents house)

MH: Whatcha gonna do when it rains?

ME: Get wet. It happens.

MH: I never ride in the rain, heck, my Harley has never had a drop of rain onnit.

ME: Ah, well, have a nice day!
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:44 PM   #5147
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That phenomenon is not exclusive to bikes. I had a lady ask me once if I knew "George", because he was in the Air Force.

She didn't know his last name, what he worked as, what squadron he was in, or if he was even at my base anymore. She just thought that I would know.
When I was in the army and asked "do you know John, he is in the 82nd Airborne too?", I would say "Yeah, bummer about his leg." then walk away.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:29 PM   #5148
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Some fat old guy wearing a novelty helmet, homemade v-neck sleeveless shirt, 90's swimming trunks, and flip flops said to me, "Do you have any idea how fucking stupid you look with all that shit on?"

Watched a guy on a Harley do a 25ft diameter u-turn in a gas station parking lot then waddle the bike the last 15ft to the pumps. He walked over to my DRZ and inquired when I was going to get a real man's bike in a nasty tone. I asked him when he was planning on learning to ride his.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:36 AM   #5149
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Sound like the guy that rolled up next to me outside a store on a "chopper" (bought not built).
Shit bucket helmet, cargo shorts, tank top and VERY white sneakers.

I'm putting my helmet and gloves on, was wearing a mesh jacket and pants. Riding my Superduke.

He said "if I had to wear all that shit, I wouldn't even ride"

I told him if I only idled around town at 25 mph I wouldn't wear it either
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:54 AM   #5150
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I told him if I only idled around town at 25 mph I wouldn't wear it either


Good one.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:01 AM   #5151
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Mods, can you change this thread name to "Innocent questions people ask to make small talk and replies by self important jack-asses"?
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:30 AM   #5152
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Never heard the "to save gas" explanation but I have heard of people in here in the States who think that using the headlights unnecessarily is bad and will kill the battery...like there is no charging system.

Where do they get these people?
On a permanent magnet generator with an old-style shunt regulator (e.g. on a dirt bike or old UJM), does it even cause any extra engine load to run electrical accessories? I'm not an EE, but I thought the generator always ran full-bore and got rid of extra electricity as heat through the regulator vs. a car alternator where the magnetic field is actually stronger when the load is heavier.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:04 PM   #5153
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This is why I ride a bike with a flux capacitor...
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:16 PM   #5154
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On a permanent magnet generator with an old-style shunt regulator (e.g. on a dirt bike or old UJM), does it even cause any extra engine load to run electrical accessories? I'm not an EE, but I thought the generator always ran full-bore and got rid of extra electricity as heat through the regulator vs. a car alternator where the magnetic field is actually stronger when the load is heavier.
To you and the other inmate who mentioned generators...I was talking about vehicles from the eighties and nineties with alternators, not generators...The battery isn't going to be drained sitting at a stop light...hence the original remark.
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Old 06-07-2012, 06:47 PM   #5155
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On a permanent magnet generator with an old-style shunt regulator (e.g. on a dirt bike or old UJM), does it even cause any extra engine load to run electrical accessories? I'm not an EE, but I thought the generator always ran full-bore and got rid of extra electricity as heat through the regulator vs. a car alternator where the magnetic field is actually stronger when the load is heavier.
These permanent magnet alternators are still very common and are not correctly termed generators because they produce an AC output (Alternator) which is then rectified and shunt regulated.

Using the term generator leads to misunderstandings like....

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To you and the other inmate who mentioned generators...I was talking about vehicles from the eighties and nineties with alternators, not generators...
The only motorcycle I've ever owned in over 30 years of riding which doesn't have a permanent magnet alternator with a shunt regulator is a 1984 air cooled BMW boxer with an automotive style alternator with a field winding controlled by the voltage regulator. My near new outboard motor also has a 3 Amp permanent magnet alternator.

Field regulated alternators are still quite unusual on motorbikes.

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The battery isn't going to be drained sitting at a stop light...hence the original remark.
If the lights are on, the lights are using energy.

That energy may be a trivial fraction of the engines output, or it may be power which the engine provides regardless of how it is used or not used (as is the case with the permanent magnet alternator or with a car heater which uses waste heat), but it has to come from somewhere.
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Old 06-07-2012, 06:52 PM   #5156
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This is why I ride a bike with a flux capacitor...
Mine has a Heisenberg Compensator, but it's usually on the fritz.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:24 AM   #5157
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Mine has a Heisenberg Compensator, ....
Is that an anti-meth manufacturer system?
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:38 AM   #5158
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Some fat old guy wearing a novelty helmet, homemade v-neck sleeveless shirt, 90's swimming trunks, and flip flops said to me, "Do you have any idea how fucking stupid you look with all that shit on?"

Watched a guy on a Harley do a 25ft diameter u-turn in a gas station parking lot then waddle the bike the last 15ft to the pumps. He walked over to my DRZ and inquired when I was going to get a real man's bike in a nasty tone. I asked him when he was planning on learning to ride his.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:56 AM   #5159
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But then, how many Americans know where to find Perth or Victoria on a map of Australia?

I do, I do.
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Now my turn for a confession; I think I was into my 30s by the time I worked out why every time I thought I understood which side of the US Washington was on, it moved.

But then, how many Americans know where to find Perth or Victoria on a map of Australia?
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I do, I do.
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