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View Results: Scoot.
Big Ruckus 8 18.60%
Stella 13 30.23%
Vespa (not Fizz) 5 11.63%
Something Else 7 16.28%
Fuck Loaded 10 23.26%
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:47 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by FriedDuck


Business 2.0 had a great article on Stella. Though I've always been a vespa fan after reading it I'm sold on the idea of getting one. Motobravo in Atlanta buys container-loads of vespas and ships 'em over and restore em if you haveta have the real thing.

What's more, they'll do engine-swaps so you can have your very own sleeper. I understand they're pricey but I've seen their work and it's the bees knees.
I wanted a Vespa, then discovered the Stella back in '03. Conventional wisdom out there in scooterland pretty much agrees that if you want the classic geared scoot/Vespa experience, the Stella is a great way to get your feet wet. Then you can dive into a restoration with a better feel for what to expect.

I've seen a level of mechanical proficiency amongst the old school Vespa/Lammy people that rivals what I see on many motorcycle boards. The art of maintaining these things is amazing--one of the draws to the genre, for me...but I figured kitting a Stella would be a good first step.

Even as a new bike, they've got enough wackiness to keep you occupied.

Ruckuses (Ruckii?) are the orthopedic shoe of scootery


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Old 10-02-2005, 08:09 PM   #17
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I was just about to pull the trigger on a Bajaj Cheetak, but backed off.

Reason: 55 mph top speed. There are a lot of other 150cc 4 strokes that will do more out of the box than that.

Now. I'm no scooterista. One could perhaps tune the Bajaj to run like a bat out of hell. I dunno.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:30 PM   #18
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Can I just have one of each?
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Old 10-02-2005, 09:39 PM   #19
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yo-kay doan take dis de wrong way but....

Speaking as someone who started riding in a place where there were about an equal number of motorcycles and scooters, and who has never had the slightest wish to "chair ride" nor attraction to either scooters or the now big fad of teeny motorcycles called "pocket" bikes....

someone explain to me why you would rather have a scooter than a motorcycle...? I really don't get it...

(This is a serious question.)
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:10 PM   #20
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I think it's a personal thing.

From an earlier, pre-forum JM post by me.

It is not serious.


From what I can tell, scooterists fall into one or more of these categories

1. Econowonks. These are people who abhor vehicles only slightly less than they abhor paying money for anything. They ride scooters because they get good gas mileage, didn't cost much, and get free parking. They couldn't care less about performance or for that matter, comfort. For them, life is a sufferfest made better by pocket protectors and OMB circulars. If someone put a 1-cylinder Onan diesel engine on a Big Wheel and sold it for $399, they'd be on it.

2. Squids. Kids who put a 70cc kit on a Yamaha Zuma and ride it to school for about a week before the cops catch them and confiscate it because they were wearing a skateboard helmet and doing a 65mph stoppie in a school zone while blatting out 163db of 2-stroke noise.

3. Adult Hooligans. These are people who justified it to themselves by combining both 1 and 2. "It'll get great gas mileage, dear," they tell their spouses, and "But it does a 1/4 mile in 12 seconds, d00d," they tell their skeptical motorcycle friends. The real reason they're riding is that it reminds them of the first time they snuck out onto a public road on their Z-50 when they were a kid, and it rails around a corner better than their R1. That, and commuting on it during the week enables them to afford to put gas in their Suburban on weekends so they can tow the boat.

4. Drunks. If the damn thing is only going 30 and the guy is giving everyone the finger, it's because it's restricted to 30mph to be classified as a moped so that the driver doesn't need tags or insurance. Which is good because the finger-waving driver can't get tags and insurance. These folks are easy to spot because they look really pissed that they are on a scooter and are weaving a bit as they struggle to tuck a 12-pack of PBR under their left arm while balancing a keg on the floorboard. See also, "Liquor-sickle"

5. Greenies. These folks ride 4 stroke scooters to save the whales from harmful emissions coming from those nasty 2T bikes and evil SUV's driven by uncaring capitalists. They are usually seen on Honda Metropolitans that, ironically, share the same motor as the fiesty Ruckus (typically ridden by groups 3 and 8). Note: if rider not wearing a Che T-shirt, you may have mis-id'd the rider. See category 7.

6. Dorks. Okay, I'm not gonna disparage anyone, but really--what else are you going to call someone in Members Only jacket, plaid shorts, white socks, and loafers, on a Silverwing? These folks run the gamut from 100 mile/year Snowbirds to the hardcore 40,000 mile Helix riders. They look like GL1200 riders, and as such, beware--they have iron butts in their wrinkly little hides.

7. Girliebikes. They're sooooo cute! They're, like, soooooo much cuter than motorcycles! Note: play your cards right, and you can get your wife on one of these scoots and it becomes a GATEWAY DRUG to bigger motorcycles. This is the first step to a 135-lb weight drop on your bike, transforming it back into the sport bike you once remembered. You can bear the Hibiscus Edition Metropolitan for this, especially if she starts getting excited about buying Bike Stuff on weekends. It's not a scooter, it's a strategy.

8. The Hardcore. This is group #3 that has evolved, transcending all rational thought and spending all their spare time ordering parts from Europe, dremeling ports to creamy smoothness. They can prounounce "Bajaj Cheetak" without sounding like they have a mouth full of novocaine, and are currently using their GS as a parts runabout for their scooter.
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