950 SE-R vs 690 Enduro - Page 5

stef · 02-13-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth S

Doesn't matter. The 690R and the 690E are so close its not worth differentiating. They have different suspension stock and they both suck so there is not benefit there. You will need to send the suspension out for a rework before you will like it. The 2012 bikes are short like the E's and have the bigger engine. Yet to be seen if the fuel injection system is any better. I would buy a used 690 that has lots of stuff already done to it and save some serious cash. I bought mine new in the spring of 08...they were no used ones at the time.

I suggest picking up a 950SE and a 450 sized bike.

Very true, I also ride a 08, bought in June out the box. Used to drool over the orange framed R's, but that's gone and won't change mine for the world. Yeh longer trips are a slight pain and as mentioned, two up is very uncomfortable. But bring on the winding dirt roads or beaches and you'll have a smile on your face as big as the canyon. Wouldn't mind something bigger for commuting though.

Seth S · 02-13-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stef

Very true, I also ride a 08, bought in June out the box. Used to drool over the orange framed R's, but that's gone and won't change mine for the world. Yeh longer trips are a slight pain and as mentioned, two up is very uncomfortable. But bring on the winding dirt roads or beaches and you'll have a smile on your face as big as the canyon. Wouldn't mind something bigger for commuting though.

A different color frame is just a few hours of disassembly and a bead blast/powder coat away:

tommi79 · 04-27-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by UT R1150R

I'm glad I found this thread.

Child support will end for me in the spring and it's time to celebrate

I'm thinking about a 690 R and a 950 SE.

After reading all the comments I want both!

I have both! Hi hi hi! ;)

Inviato dal mio GT-N7000 con Tapatalk 2

Rooster6978 · 06-12-2012, 06:17 PM

Just bought the 2012 690R and did 260 miles mostly dirt over 2 days Bike slightly heavier than my 525 but will cruse at 70 mph. Suspension needs to be stiffen up for off road but I love the bike

RedlegDaddy · 06-13-2012, 07:04 PM

I will cast my vote for the Super Enduro!

I have had four 950SER’s and four 690R’s, or was it five?

The Super Enduro is like riding a bull, twist the right wrist and hold on!

I rode the Nevada TAT in 2009 on a Super Enduro

and the Colorado TAT in 2010 on a Super Enduro and had a blast on both rides.

The Super Enduro is a handful to pick up but it seems like the only time I dropped it was when I was trying to dab a foot down. A riding buddy 30 years my elder told me the secret to riding the big orange monster: “keep your feet on the pegs and twist the right hand"!

Again, get the Super Enduro!

sakurama · 06-13-2012, 11:01 PM

If you're riding dirt in Colorado the 690 is better. The big problem with the 950 is that you'll spend most of your time trying to prove how much it can do for such a big bike - which is a lot but that gets old after a while. It can do pretty much all that the 690 can but you'll just work a lot harder.

Another thing is that once the big bike is moving it's very hard to stop - especially on gravel. That's important. In single track it isn't close - the small bike rules. The advantage of the big bike is in a straight line when there's a lot of traction and you're accelerating - that's pretty much it.

Most of going fast is going slow later and quicker - not really going faster. Most of the enjoyment of riding comes from not having to work really hard to enjoy yourself. Of course the thrill of the 950 when it's hooked up is undeniable - but rare and fleeting.

Gregor

spencergt66 · 06-14-2012, 08:27 AM

If you are considering a 690 or 950SE then I would definitely not consider a 625 or 640 over weight and under powered I use mine to commute back and forth to work off road its pretty lack luster heavy shakes like crazy Get the SE no FI "Issues" simple and proven

Brown Dog · 06-14-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spencergt66

... I would definitely not consider a 625 or 640 ... shakes like crazy ...

I'm glad your Honest

A lot of 625/640 owners won't dare admit this statement.

They are like a paint mixer compared to the newer 690

Ramv · 06-14-2012, 08:15 PM

Love the SE. Much cheaper than 690 and does pretty well.

HickOnACrick · 06-15-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sakurama

The big problem with the 950 is that you'll spend most of your time trying to prove how much it can do for such a big bike - which is a lot but that gets old after a while. It can do pretty much all that the 690 can but you'll just work a lot harder.

Totally agree.

However, as bad as I want a 690 or Hoosabitch 570, I can't fathom the idea of selling my SE to get either. Having done some stupid stuff on the SE, trying to prove what it can do, I would rather just KNOW it can do those things in case I need to, not to try and prove that it can.

spencergt66 · 06-15-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HickOnACrick

Totally agree.

However, as bad as I want a 690 or Hoosabitch 570, I can't fathom the idea of selling my SE to get either. Having done some stupid stuff on the SE, trying to prove what it can do, I would rather just KNOW it can do those things in case I need to, not to try and prove that it can.

Funny I sold my 2010 berg and bought my SE best move I ever made

triplenickel · 06-15-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HickOnACrick

Totally agree.

However, as bad as I want a 690 or Hoosabitch 570, I can't fathom the idea of selling my SE to get either. Having done some stupid stuff on the SE, trying to prove what it can do, I would rather just KNOW it can do those things in case I need to, not to try and prove that it can.

Sure would be hard to go back to a single eh?

Florida Lime · 06-15-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spencergt66

Funny I sold my 2010 berg and bought my SE best move I ever made

I added a 2010 570 to go with my SE, best move I ever made.

spencergt66 · 06-16-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida Lime

I added a 2010 570 to go with my SE, best move I ever made.

I thought when I bought my berg I would spend more time riding and less time wrenching, Ha was I ever wrong well I think I pushed that bike farter then I rode it. 23 hrs on it when I sold it spent 6 months off/on at the dealer 1 emc 1 complete wiring harness 3 fuel pump 2 injectors... no thanks they can have that pile

Brown Dog · 06-16-2012, 07:28 PM

I wanna 570 Berg for Nasty Singletrack up in the Mtns,
To go WITH my 690 & 950

3 bikes in the Arsenal will do ALL of my Dual Sport Tactics

06-12-2012, 06:17 PM	#64
Rooster6978 n00b Joined: Jun 2007 Oddometer: 3	690 Rules Just bought the 2012 690R and did 260 miles mostly dirt over 2 days Bike slightly heavier than my 525 but will cruse at 70 mph. Suspension needs to be stiffen up for off road but I love the bike

06-13-2012, 07:04 PM	#65
RedlegDaddy Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: SE Arizona Oddometer: 441	I will cast my vote for the Super Enduro! I have had four 950SER’s and four 690R’s, or was it five? The Super Enduro is like riding a bull, twist the right wrist and hold on! I rode the Nevada TAT in 2009 on a Super Enduro and the Colorado TAT in 2010 on a Super Enduro and had a blast on both rides. The Super Enduro is a handful to pick up but it seems like the only time I dropped it was when I was trying to dab a foot down. A riding buddy 30 years my elder told me the secret to riding the big orange monster: “keep your feet on the pegs and twist the right hand"! Again, get the Super Enduro! __________________ "Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have." Ronald Reagan _____________________________

06-13-2012, 11:01 PM	#66
sakurama on an endless build Joined: Oct 2004 Location: NYC & PDX Oddometer: 1,209	If you're riding dirt in Colorado the 690 is better. The big problem with the 950 is that you'll spend most of your time trying to prove how much it can do for such a big bike - which is a lot but that gets old after a while. It can do pretty much all that the 690 can but you'll just work a lot harder. Another thing is that once the big bike is moving it's very hard to stop - especially on gravel. That's important. In single track it isn't close - the small bike rules. The advantage of the big bike is in a straight line when there's a lot of traction and you're accelerating - that's pretty much it. Most of going fast is going slow later and quicker - not really going faster. Most of the enjoyment of riding comes from not having to work really hard to enjoy yourself. Of course the thrill of the 950 when it's hooked up is undeniable - but rare and fleeting. Gregor __________________ www.gregorhalenda.com Previously on ADV: My endless rebuild: 950 Refresh or Mission Creep My ride reports: 5 Up on Two Bikes - Long way to the Trans Lab and City Blocks to Slick Rocks

06-14-2012, 08:27 AM	#67
spencergt66 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Seattle WA Oddometer: 371	SXC? Really? If you are considering a 690 or 950SE then I would definitely not consider a 625 or 640 over weight and under powered I use mine to commute back and forth to work off road its pretty lack luster heavy shakes like crazy Get the SE no FI "Issues" simple and proven

06-14-2012, 08:15 PM	#69
Ramv ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Castle Rock, Co Oddometer: 421	Love the SE. Much cheaper than 690 and does pretty well. __________________ '10 Multistrada 1200 Std ('11 - current) '07 Super Enduro 950 ('12- current) '02 Superhawk (37k miles, '02-'11) '96 KLX250R - kind of street legal - ('97 - current) '90 KLR 650 Tengei ('95-'97)

06-16-2012, 07:28 PM	#75
Brown Dog North Georgia Dual Sportr Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Calhoun, GA. USA Oddometer: 1,688	I wanna 570 Berg for Nasty Singletrack up in the Mtns, To go WITH my 690 & 950 3 bikes in the Arsenal will do ALL of my Dual Sport Tactics __________________ 2008 KTM 690 ENDURO with 2009 suspension & 950 SUPER ENDURO http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=1784 http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=8594 http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=683 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnFCdoc_IDE

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