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Old 07-02-2012, 08:46 AM   #16
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Ver well done review.

The Guzzi was on my final short list but ... decided to play safe with SuperT as peace of mind during long trips... especially the dream trip to Alaska. Also the left knee issue around here in Austin.... it can be hot!
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:03 AM   #17
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One review mentioned the heat off the left cylinder was unbearable have you noticed this?
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:10 AM   #18
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One review mentioned the heat off the left cylinder was unbearable have you noticed this?
Heat on any bike is entirely owner dependent/subjective

I'm in Houston - wearing proper gear I don't notice the left hand heat. Were short boots and jeans you notice it's warmer. but to me not an issue and I've ridded in 100deg. Did a 98deg blast back from Ft. worth a few weeks ago also without issue

1800miles and loving it so far
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:19 AM   #19
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Heat on any bike is entirely owner dependent/subjective


it's almost comical they notice the left due to a few mm closer proximity due to the crankpin offset.

when it's warm enough to notice engine heat, you're probably at a stop and would feel it wafting from the whole engine in front of you.

I feel the heat up there at slower speeds, but it's the same as on so many other bikes, and nothing to complain about
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #20
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Thanks for the info leafman
The Seattle Moto Guzzi dealer has a new, leftover 2009 Stelvio that I'm thinking of buying.
Can you list the link to your 2009 review? Thanks!
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #21
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One review mentioned the heat off the left cylinder was unbearable have you noticed this?

Thanks for the question. From my review-

In hot weather, yes, you can feel heat from the left side. This is similar to the heat you will feel from both cylinders of a BMW in similar conditions. Fuel injection tweaking will greatly help this issue but, for most riding, it is not a big thing. Hey, when the day is hot, everything is hot.


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Old 07-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #22
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Thanks for the info leafman
The Seattle Moto Guzzi dealer has a new, leftover 2009 Stelvio that I'm thinking of buying.
Can you list the link to your 2009 review? Thanks!

Thank you too. I found that original thread from 3+ years ago. You will see the similarity with my current assessment.

Look here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...eafman+stelvio

Also, I found another thread started by someone with their own assessment on the '09 model.

Look here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...eafman+stelvio

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Old 07-02-2012, 03:29 PM   #23
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Thanks for the question. From my review-

In hot weather, yes, you can feel heat from the left side. This is similar to the heat you will feel from both cylinders of a BMW in similar conditions. Fuel injection tweaking will greatly help this issue but, for most riding, it is not a big thing. Hey, when the day is hot, everything is hot.


Leaf,

Not sure if the new 8V motor is similar to the "old" 4V motor in this respect, but on my '08 Norge I noticed a fairly significant reduction in radiated heat when running the prescribed 10W60 full synthetic oil vs. lighter weight and/or blended oils. Does the NTX owner's manual state 60W full synth???

And no, I don't mean to start an oil threadjack....just adding my experience re. big Guzzi twins and heat.

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Old 07-02-2012, 03:33 PM   #24
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Yes, it comes with 10-60 synthetic and that's what I will use.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:37 PM   #25
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Stelvio comments

Leafman60, you have done a great job reviewing the 2012 stelvio. I recently bought a 2009 Stelvio and I can say from my experiences that it is a greatly overlooked machine.

Buying my 2009 from Moto International in Seattle. I rode back home to Ft Smith,AR. I rode almost 2200 miles through all types of weather (March 30- April 3) and the bike handled the gusting winds and rain with out a care. I look forward to the day I buy the next Stelvio, a NTX.

Again, Leafman 60, very good write up.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:15 PM   #26
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Leaf, first and foremost, congrats on the new NTX. It is the one bike that I would give my Multistrada up for, and would love to recreate my '09 Stelvio (Guzzitech modded) in this new package. I missed on the one at my local dealer (sold to Asia) but I'm fairly certain they could source another. A brilliant re-design, I just love the improvements that they made.

edit: the only thing i don't like about the motorcycle is its weight....spend time in/on/around a MTS and you'll know what i mean.

Great write-up, thanks for sharing.
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:03 AM   #27
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Stella is coming home

i am picking mine (orange) up on sat.
I read the factory service manuals for the Explorer, Goose, Caponord, Tenere, 990, 1200 touring s.
And have test rode all of them, the explorer,990, and tenere on an extended ride.

This is the best choice for me and by far the easiest to maintain at home of the lot, and was the most bike for the dollar, the explorer was my second choice (I would have picked it maybe if the money was closer) but it was not $4.5k better, And our dealer for Trumpets in kville is just ok. a little suspension work and it should need nothing else but my Kristas moved off the strom onto it. I will keep you updated. Thanks for the write up I am glad someone else out there thinks it is a pretty fine machine.

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Old 07-03-2012, 07:00 AM   #28
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Really getting a kick out of mine. The Mistral can just gives me bigger smiles. One thing that had been understated so far is the ride of this machine. Admittedly I have yet to hit the dirt and it is not really my intention but, on the highway, it shines. Get your revs and your speed up a bit and it just starts acting like Seabiscuit. Just wants to open that stride. And after having a rock of a seat under me with my F800GS, this one puts me in the lap of luxury. It's a given that it's kind of a big, ugly sucker for a seat but, hey. You don't see it when your sitting on it. Then there's that rock steady ride. I've had the crap knocked out of me by crosswinds on both a KLR and an F8 but, the other day I got into some pretty heavy duty stuff here and the MG barely budged. Ya gotta love it!
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:00 AM   #29
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Thanks for the question. From my review-

In hot weather, yes, you can feel heat from the left side. This is similar to the heat you will feel from both cylinders of a BMW in similar conditions.
Fuel injection tweaking will greatly help this issue but, for most riding, it is not a big thing.
disagree.

not a bike you just tweak the EFI on - quite a few threads on it in other forums.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:07 AM   #30
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disagree.

not a bike you just tweak the EFI on - quite a few threads on it in other forums.

It's not something you do in your garage but there are sources for it. Todd on west coast and at least another guy in Virginia. I know more than one Guzzi owner who had his ECU flashed. Their bikes ran better and produced significantly less engine heat.

Mine is not particularly hot-running but I'm having the re-flash done largely because I am changing exhaust and intake. We will see. I will report back.
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