Pensacola area riders

[Vico1]

Originally Posted by waysherr

I have a full enduro from Jeffs helmet cam from way back in VHS days....

I can put that on a DVD for you...[/QUOTE]


Thanks I will take you up on that offer. Now if I can find it?

This was nothing produced... it was just Jeff riding an enduro with a new fangled thing called a helmet camera.

I will find it and keep it in my truck...

As these guys know I have lots of old 60s and 70s converted from 8mm to DVD. No sound of course...

They are fun to watch at campouts and Fests...

[bzrider]

Originally Posted by Vico1

But you ride mostly 6th gear pinned!

Honestly I am totally confused with the n00bs that have come on board these last two weeks. Hatch brough in a couple of new to dirt guys, then two more old timers, then a couple of in between guys, and a husband and wife GS team...

We should have a n00b ride to introduce everyone!

What say you new guys? When and where? BlackWater may be the best place to start out since it doent have the SAND of Eglin.

I want in but I wont be home until the 18th ..

[skid=mark]

PAR FF's, noobs, and lowly lurkers:

To all who may or may not give a shizz: My line of work brings me in contact with some interesting stuff occasionally. Some of you are probably already aware of some of these facts, but reading this today just reinforced for me:

a. why we are lucky as hell to be able to ride the sh-ite out of Eglin; b. why the rules are so particular about not cutting new trails--and staying on the existing "roads", etc.; and c. just what a rare jewel that stretch of real estate is... just IMHO:

"Eglin Air Force Base (AFB) is a major research, development, test and evaluation and training area for national defense. This important national asset covers a large expanse of land--724 square miles-- and includes control of 86,000 square miles of air space and water range in the Gulf of Mexico. Eglin is the largest forested military base in the world consisting of approximately 464, 000 acres in Santa Rosa, Okaloosa and Walton Counties in northwest Florida.


The Base is considered to be one of the largest and most important public land holdings in the southeast United States. It contains an unique assemblages of plants and animals, including several species and subspecies found nowhere else. The terrain consists of rolling sand hill ridges dissected by numerous clear, cool perennial seepage streams which total approximately 600 miles and include some of the highest quality steephead creeks in the southeast.

The most prominent natural community type (78%) on Eglin is the sandhills with excessively drained sands which are generally strongly acidic and low in natural fertility and organic content. The xeric uplands sandhill association is dominated by an overstory of scattered longleaf pine with an understory of turkey oaks, bluejacks, sand post oaks and live oaks. Rare plant species include southern three-awned grass (Aristida simpliciflora), toothed savory (clamintha dentata), and pineland hoary pea (Tephrosia mohrii).

Much of this association has been affected by early naval stores, logging, and fire control practices which severely reduced the pine overstory and led to encroachment by sand pine and various scrub oaks.

Eglin is considered to be the largest intact sandhill ecosystem in the southeast and is thought to possess the largest contiguous old growth longleaf pine forest remaining in the world. Eglin's sandhill ecosystem supports the world's fourth largest population of red-cockaded woodpeckers, 95% of the entire range of the endangered Okaloosa darter, the only known population of the endangered lichen Cladonia perforata and , because of the soil structure, supports an extremely high diversity of rare herpetofauna.

In addition to the sandhill community, Eglin includes almost half of the currently recognized 83 natural communities in Florida, making the base a tremendously important area for preserving biodiversity. There are over 47 taxa of rare plants found on the base including two which are almost exclusively restricted to Eglin. The Base also contains 20 miles of pristine barrier islands along the Gulf of Mexico which provides habitat for numerous rare species. Eglin's barrier island supports the largest intact population of beach mice in northwest Florida and 53% of the entire state's population of threatened snowy plover (a bird). In addition, Eglin's beaches provide nesting areas for loggerhead and green sea turtles and serve as an important rest area for neotropical migratory birds."

So basically, it would definitely behoove us to maintain the high standards that the ADV folks are known for out there (I am not kidding) by the authorities. I know several of us have had this conversation before, especially the more senior (in tenure in ADV) riders here...

So FBM, stop harassing (and molesting) the beach mice and herpetofauna-- (that is not an acceptable use of duct tape...ohh wait that was the gerbils...)

[waysherr]

Vico1,cool! I have a pretty big dvd library myself.. I remember being about 4 or 5 and going to races watching dad flattrack. I have a box of 8mm "family" movies in my closet with those races somewhere in em. Makes me wanna go dig em out! I still have the original Bell & Howell film projector........

[Vico1]

We are blessed to be able to ride this "largest intact sandhill" in the southeast...

Its a bitch at times ... but who aint...

With all the n00bs coming on board we should mention that we have some great riding areas in Eglin and BW and we dont want to screw that up by breaking the rules.... (the big ones anyway).

I ask that everyone who rides Eglin have a valid permit. It not too much to ask, and it really is for your own good. And if you ride there enough you WILL be stopped.

Ive been stopped at least 20 times and even know lots of the Patrol. ADV Riders have a good rep at Eglin and we would like to keep it.

Please stay out of the clay pits. We all love em, but they are all off limits and you can spot the bike knobby tack a mile away. Yes trucks and 4 wheelers go in some of them but thats their problem not ours. I have had this discussion with the Range Patrol several times.

Looking forward to riding with you guys.

Im only gonna ride one day this weekend but I dont care which... whats best for all...

If some are going to Karick lake we migh have a big ride from there on Sunday???

[Jaxxzenn]

Originally Posted by Vico1

But you ride mostly 6th gear pinned!

Honestly I am totally confused with the n00bs that have come on board these last two weeks. Hatch brough in a couple of new to dirt guys, then two more old timers, then a couple of in between guys, and a husband and wife GS team...

We should have a n00b ride to introduce everyone!

What say you new guys? When and where? BlackWater may be the best place to start out since it doent have the SAND of Eglin.

just wondering about mph on those tree lined, sand riden trails in the last video.....yep I'm scared

[freebornman]

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[waysherr]

Well said. Always having a trail boss from PAR should be required Vic, John and I are taking the RV to Karick sat. pm. Sunday morning would be great. What time.....we'll be ready. I've heard north of Karick is pretty cool

[Vico1]

Originally Posted by Jaxxzenn

just wondering about mph on those tree lined, sand riden trails in the last video.....yep I'm scared

Ahhh... welllll... I was not kidding about 6th gear pinned. What you saw was just part of a real fastburn through Broxson's Landing area. Seven of the fastest ADV riders I know ripped it up. WFO all the way all day.

You may want to build up to the fastburn rides and get your sand legs first.

Blackwater has areas where sand is not an issue and therefore easier to get use to the dirt. Eglin rides tend to get serious fast because sand does not like to be ridden slow.

There are any number of experienced riders on here how are happy to show you around.

[Hatch]

Originally Posted by Vico1

Ahhh... welllll... I was not kidding about 6th gear pinned. What you saw was just part of a real fastburn through Broxson's Landing area. Seven of the fastest ADV riders I know ripped it up. WFO all the way all day.

You may want to build up to the fastburn rides and get your sand legs first.

Blackwater has areas where sand is not an issue and therefore easier to get use to the dirt. Eglin rides tend to get serious fast because sand does not like to be ridden slow.

There are any number of experienced riders on here how are happy to show you around.

truth - this man speaks it! I race enduros, and place in them, and I have no hopes of keeping up with those insane fastburners. partly because of my immaculate sanity in not going that fast on public dirt roads...

Originally Posted by halmc

Very nice video, I got to get over that way. Where is Brock's landing? Got any *.gpx from that area?

Broxon Landing - please refer to post #2

Originally Posted by skid=mark

PAR FF's, noobs, and lowly lurkers:
...

excellent info skid, added to front page!

[skid=mark]

Originally Posted by Jaxxzenn

just wondering about mph on those tree lined, sand riden trails in the last video.....yep I'm scared

top speed on my gps last weekend on dirt was 66.2 mph... but that ain't a record...and I wasn't leading...

[etingelefunts]

990 is getting a stable mate in about 2 weeks;




WR250R

Will mount rear grab handle.... Much easier for skid=mark to pull on when I head off into the woods.

[Woods Rider]

Originally Posted by Hatch

truth - this man speaks it! I race enduros, and place in them, and I have no hopes of keeping up with those insane fastburners. partly because of my immaculate sanity in not going that fast on public dirt roads...



Broxon Landing - please refer to post #2




excellent info skid, added to front page!

Up until two years ago, I too raced the SERA enduro circuit for about 10 years and even raced a couple 24 hour races at Perry Mountain (crazy shit) and I too am a little uncomfortable with high speeds on public dirt roads.

That being said, Vic, Spectre and I tore ass this morning....LOL!

[Orange Crushed]

Originally Posted by Vico1

Ahhh... welllll... I was not kidding about 6th gear pinned. What you saw was just part of a real fastburn through Broxson's Landing area. Seven of the fastest ADV riders I know ripped it up. WFO all the way all day.

You may want to build up to the fastburn rides and get your sand legs first.

Blackwater has areas where sand is not an issue and therefore easier to get use to the dirt. Eglin rides tend to get serious fast because sand does not like to be ridden slow.

There are any number of experienced riders on here how are happy to show you around.

I'm sure the lens on the GoPro camera made the speeds appear much faster than I was actually going! I can’t' believe that anyone in the video would possibly even consider traveling at speeds that would not only be considered unsafe much less above any type of posted or non-posted speed limits based on the areas that we might consider riding.

[Dirtwoman]

I should have my KLX back to "normal" by tomorrow. Anyone up for a later day ride...around 5? Karick Lake? I know Barney is in....anyone else?