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Old 07-13-2012, 12:53 PM   #13516
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:59 PM   #13517
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How many miles did you get out of the shinkos? I too really liked the stock Battlewings and just put on a set of Shinkos. Also, did both the front and rear wear out at the same time.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:14 PM   #13518
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How many miles did you get out of the shinkos? I too really liked the stock Battlewings and just put on a set of Shinkos. Also, did both the front and rear wear out at the same time.
I LOVE the Shinkos. I got 4700 out of my first rear. And 3400 of those miles were fully loaded with panniers on. The front will always wear out slower than the rear. Usually by a rate of 2 to 1. So, I'm on my second 705 rear. I like the price and mileage. Also gets the best traction off road of the three rear non-knobbies I've run. It beats the Tourance everywhere. I got 5700 out of the Tourance for twice the price. IMO the 705 gets better traction everywhere. And I get to put a new one on sooner for half the price. That's getting your money's worth. I liked the Battlewing a lot too. But once again, the 705 is cheaper and I think it does better everywhere. The BW beat the Tourance and the 705 beats em both.

I have run though a TKC80 on the rear. I liked the traction off road and it looks bad ass on the bike. But, I wore it down to the carcass in 2700 miles. That's pretty damn quick for a $180 tire. I bought 4 of them a few months back when tire prices were jumping every few weeks. They are just gonna sit in my garage until Fall/Winter/Spring riding when I will encounter nasty desert mud and mountain snow. In the summers I'm running the 705 rear from here on out. I found my tire.

I am running the TKC 80 on the front and it appears to wearing well. I'll always have a knobby on the front. Well, not always, I may put a 705 on the front for the Alaska trip next summer. And I still have the remainder of a 705 front that has about 6000 miles on it. Can probably get another 2000 at least out of that one. After this TKC wears out on the front I have a 606 take off from my KLR days that I'm going to finish off. I really liked the 606 and I may run that if it handles on the road well enough for this big bike. I remember liking it a lot on my KLR. IF it handles well enough on the road, I'll run the 606 up front most of the time because it so much cheaper than the 80. More aggressive off road too.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:40 PM   #13519
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The video of the fuel exhaust. As requested.
Many thanks for that - super helpful! Also thanks again for the suspension write up. Exhaust (for narrow luggage), luggage, and suspension are on my list for the bike.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:56 PM   #13520
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I LOVE the Shinkos. I got 4700 out of my first rear. And 3400 of those miles were fully loaded with panniers on. The front will always wear out slower than the rear. Usually by a rate of 2 to 1. So, I'm on my second 705 rear. I like the price and mileage.
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:04 PM   #13521
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Thanks man! That's a great compliment. Glad to see those Happy Trails parts on your bike! Made in the USA!
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:25 PM   #13522
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I LOVE the Shinkos. I got 4700 out of my first rear. And 3400 of those miles were fully loaded with panniers on. The front will always wear out slower than the rear. Usually by a rate of 2 to 1. So, I'm on my second 705 rear. I like the price and mileage. Also gets the best traction off road of the three rear non-knobbies I've run. It beats the Tourance everywhere. I got 5700 out of the Tourance for twice the price. IMO the 705 gets better traction everywhere. And I get to put a new one on sooner for half the price. That's getting your money's worth. I liked the Battlewing a lot too. But once again, the 705 is cheaper and I think it does better everywhere. The BW beat the Tourance and the 705 beats em both.

I have run though a TKC80 on the rear. I liked the traction off road and it looks bad ass on the bike. But, I wore it down to the carcass in 2700 miles. That's pretty damn quick for a $180 tire. I bought 4 of them a few months back when tire prices were jumping every few weeks. They are just gonna sit in my garage until Fall/Winter/Spring riding when I will encounter nasty desert mud and mountain snow. In the summers I'm running the 705 rear from here on out. I found my tire.

I am running the TKC 80 on the front and it appears to wearing well. I'll always have a knobby on the front. Well, not always, I may put a 705 on the front for the Alaska trip next summer. And I still have the remainder of a 705 front that has about 6000 miles on it. Can probably get another 2000 at least out of that one. After this TKC wears out on the front I have a 606 take off from my KLR days that I'm going to finish off. I really liked the 606 and I may run that if it handles on the road well enough for this big bike. I remember liking it a lot on my KLR. IF it handles well enough on the road, I'll run the 606 up front most of the time because it so much cheaper than the 80. More aggressive off road too.

Thanks, great info. I have something to look foward to.

I wish they made a 606 for the tiger rear.. Let me know how it works on the front of the Tiger. I have a take off that I may try on my Tiger. The 606 is the best "street tire" ever on a KLR...Yes...I said street tire. They hook up like no other. It's the only tire that I will buy for the KLR.
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:31 PM   #13523
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Thanks, great info. I have something to look foward to.

I wish they made a 606 for the tiger rear.. Let me know how it works on the front of the Tiger. I have a take off that I may try on my Tiger. The 606 is the best "street tire" ever on a KLR...Yes...I said street tire. They hook up like no other. It's the only tire that I will buy for the KLR.
It's on my to do list to look at what it would cost to get the rear rim relaced with a narrower hoop so I could run a 130. I had a friend that had a 140-18 rim on his ktm and he could run anything between a 130 to a 150. Lots research and calculations to do to see if I could offset the cost of reworking the rim to run the cheaper 606. Plus a 606 on this bike would be outta this world!
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:35 PM   #13524
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It's on my to do list to look at what it would cost to get the rear rim relaced with a narrower hoop so I could run a 130. I had a friend that had a 140-18 rim on his ktm and he could run anything between a 130 to a 150. Lots research and calculations to do to see if I could offset the cost of reworking the rim to run the cheaper 606. Plus a 606 on this bike would be outta this world!

Now thats a thought!
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:51 PM   #13525
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:53 PM   #13526
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I wish they made a 606 for the tiger rear.. Let me know how it works on the front of the Tiger. I have a take off that I may try on my Tiger. The 606 is the best "street tire" ever on a KLR...Yes...I said street tire. They hook up like no other. It's the only tire that I will buy for the KLR.

You would be lucky to get a thousand miles out of a 606 on the tiger. And it would spin up on the street. And once it got squared off would be horrible for sweepers.

While the XC was designed to go off pavement it's not a dirtbike. Suspension is limited and it's a pig at 475# so once it gets out of control a little there's no getting it back.

Consider TKC's or K60's. And another lighter bike for real offroad riding.
JMHO.


EDIT: Just went back thru the thread and see you guys have been discussing riding offroad and have other bikes, so temper my response with that thought. Some are gonna really run these bikes hard.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:13 PM   #13527
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The best mod I have done to my bike. Getting the suspension reworked by Sasquatch.


Pricing info. Off the bike, parts shipped in. Shock: $450, Forks $350. Plus return shipping.

That really seems like a helluva bagain for a custom setup.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:06 PM   #13528
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You would be lucky to get a thousand miles out of a 606 on the tiger. And it would spin up on the street. And once it got squared off would be horrible for sweepers.

While the XC was designed to go off pavement it's not a dirtbike. Suspension is limited and it's a pig at 475# so once it gets out of control a little there's no getting it back.

Consider TKC's or K60's. And another lighter bike for real offroad riding.
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EDIT: Just went back thru the thread and see you guys have been discussing riding offroad and have other bikes, so temper my response with that thought. Some are gonna really run these bikes hard.
I'll be nice. All I'll say is spend a few hours reading my thread. Particularly the parts about Longwater Rock, Red Cone, and Schofield Pass. This is a dirt bike to me. And I ride it that way.

Sasquatch Suspension is super affordable when considering the other options out there. Of which there currently aren't many. It's really a no brainer if you want the improved performance. Night and day difference.

And on the tire note. I'll bet I get 1500 miles out of a 606. That's two new tires vs 1 TKC for the same price. Plus the 606 is gonna be way better off road, where I try to spend a majority of my time.
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A lot of guys like the 606 offroad. I have not run one on the Husky. Just ordered out a Scorpion Rally for it, they are about the same money as the 606. The husky burns them in about a thousand miles, the Karoo (T) went 750, and a T63 is good for about 1800. I just figured the additional weight and power of the Tiger would just burn the 606 in no time.

Seems like you would spend several hundred changing rims to be able to run a tire the SE's won't run because they don't last long enough. But maybe that's the tire for you.

Good on 'ya getting the bike out offroad. I have my husky for that so figured the XC would be my 'street' bike.

Enjoyed your info. The suspension upgrade sounds terrific.
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Rear tire....I am loving the Mitas E07 from MX1 in Canada, can't buy here in the US. Similar to the Heide, does pavement well & very competent on the dirt + this tire will last. I have 5500miles on my rear. I just rode the Blue Ridge Park,, Tail of the Dragon & did 1600 miles this past weekend & I am sold.
I had 606 on my Dual Sport XR650R....it worked great, didn't last that long & broke loose without warning & the 650R tended to tear the knobs off .
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