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Old 06-11-2012, 07:27 PM   #1516
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...I couldn't keep up with my buddy on his ktm 450xc...
i'm shocked.
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:10 AM   #1517
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... I Couldn't keep up with my buddy on his KTM 450xc...

I have the same problem with a DRZ 400 but i did find out if you get in front on gravel 11000 RPMs will keep them off your butt.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:09 AM   #1518
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I have the same problem with a DRZ 400 but i did find out if you get in front on gravel 11000 RPMs will keep them off your butt.
GETRIDOFTHAT17FRONT...you won't need anything close to 11,000 and your buddy will have a real tough time back there in the dust. those big tires do raise the dust, and you have enough HP to spin that rear in a bunch of different gears. crack those throttle bodies open, that gravel gets rearranged fast.

i've had to backtrack on some roads during recent trips due to closed gates and also some damn poor navigation. i about have to laugh when i see the tracks the rat bike makes on those roads. lucky it's a road, ya could plant crops in those furrows.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:46 PM   #1519
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i'm shocked.

haha I know, very surprising
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:31 AM   #1520
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...very surprising
surprising to find you have a broken arm! hope you heal up quick.

pjm rat bike for sale here...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=805408
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:52 PM   #1521
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Just found this thread courtesy of a friend, after I mentioned I was considering getting rid of my Ninja 650r. Love the engineering, but I'm a fat old guy, annoyed by the sportbiker mentality. I mentioned I wished I'd waited a year and bought a Versys, and said friend mentioned it wasn't terribly difficult or expensive to convert/modify what I have....

.. so, I wil lbe taking copious notes... *love* the way this thing turned out!
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:09 PM   #1522
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If Kawi made this bike, I'd have three bikes in my garage tomorrow....
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:56 PM   #1523
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If Kawi made this bike, I'd have three bikes in my garage tomorrow....
well, all i can say is "can't buy one. ya have to build it."...from the first sentence of the the first post in this thread. the build certainly has sparked some interest, as i've received inquiries about different aspects of building similar bikes from many corners of this very small planet we call home.

i think i've been successful in demonstrating that the build is both easy and cheap, yet produces a bike that is very capable in many areas. i've been tied up with family obligations for the last month, so no riding. no riding, but it hasn't kept me from looking over the offerings on the showroom floor. bottom line, i just don't see anything that holds much interest, which isn't to say that something won't come along...but i have a particular set of requirements for my type of riding, so i had to build one too.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:59 AM   #1524
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well, all i can say is "can't buy one. ya have to build it."...from the first sentence of the the first post in this thread. the build certainly has sparked some interest, as i've received inquiries about different aspects of building similar bikes from many corners of this very small planet we call home.

i think i've been successful in demonstrating that the build is both easy and cheap, yet produces a bike that is very capable in many areas. i've been tied up with family obligations for the last month, so no riding. no riding, but it hasn't kept me from looking over the offerings on the showroom floor. bottom line, i just don't see anything that holds much interest, which isn't to say that something won't come along...but i have a particular set of requirements for my type of riding, so i had to build one too.

I do the same thing, looking at the new showroom and I too see nothing to get me excited. I bought my first BMW 2 yrs ago and love it. I also love your build and would love to build one and I am looking for the right priced bike, crashed Versys or V-Strom. Like I said I love my BMW, but I would love to have a bike like yours and I truly beleive it could replace my KLR and my BMW. I love jap bikes.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:30 PM   #1525
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...Like I said I love my BMW...
plenty of BMW guys on the forum who have a love affair going with the BMW DS bikes, but i'd be reluctant to take one of those bikes some of the places the rat bike has been. if i fall off the rat, just pick it up and go. BMW goes down in the same place, pick it up and take it to the dealer with a couple thousand in damage.

when the first rat bike got hit by that grain truck in western Montana in 2009 and dragged 100', heck, i figured the damage didn't exceed my $250 deductible and never filed a claim. might have totaled a BMW.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:11 AM   #1526
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plenty of BMW guys on the forum who have a love affair going with the BMW DS bikes, but i'd be reluctant to take one of those bikes some of the places the rat bike has been. if i fall off the rat, just pick it up and go. BMW goes down in the same place, pick it up and take it to the dealer with a couple thousand in damage.

when the first rat bike got hit by that grain truck in western Montana in 2009 and dragged 100', heck, i figured the damage didn't exceed my $250 deductible and never filed a claim. might have totaled a BMW.

I agree, that is why I like your bike so much. I think I could take a bike like yours anywhere I take my KLR. I would never take the GS where I take my KLR, just too big and heavy.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:04 AM   #1527
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JD sounds like you don't care for BMW? They do have some great features. Tubeless spoke wheels, linked ABS breaks that is amazing! !!. The power is good and smooth. I have never owned a BMW but would like too. A GS 800 the 1200 is to big.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:49 AM   #1528
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I can make a spoked wheel tubeless for a heck of a lot less than 12K, and I am not at all sold on ABS on a motorcycle (or, for that matter, on a cage).
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:56 AM   #1529
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JD sounds like you don't care for BMW?
i didn't say that, and i did once own a BMW minnie model which ran pretty good. i just said i'd be reluctant to beat the heck out of one of those expensive bikes and then pay the BMW price to fix it.

i can't even keep a rat right side up all the time, but if it gets a ding, it would be laughable to let it ruin my day. the whole bike and everything on it is like pocket change cheap...compared to other nowtoremainnameless brands.



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Old 07-18-2012, 11:15 AM   #1530
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I can make a spoked wheel tubeless for a heck of a lot less than 12K, and I am not at all sold on ABS on a motorcycle (or, for that matter, on a cage).

hmmm, new F800 with the usual DS equipment, then add $2000 to fix the suspension, you now have a very good DS mount for around $16000.

...or you could own a decent V649HP for 95% less. no spoke wheels, no ABS, no bling, no nuthin'. runs on regular, motor filled with car oil from walmart.
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