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Old 07-26-2012, 05:59 AM   #16
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It does happen , two buddies of mine lost a side case and the other his top case. Both BMW OEM cases. In both cases the latch securing the case to the rack opened?

I decided to secure mine with a spring pin, drilled a hole between the bracket of the rack and the bracket of the side case. Removable in two seconds and if the latch opens the case won't move.

can you do a pictorial on this mod? im very very very interested!
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:16 PM   #17
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If the R1200GS Adventure aluminum side cases are installed correctly, the only way I could think one could come off accidentally is if the latch is not locked as it is a simple over-center latch design. Once the latch is locked, unless the lock breaks there should be no way for the latch to open and the bag to slide forward 2" on the solid metal mounts and then fall off the bike.

There's no way I'd not lock the latches on my bags when installing and then trust the latch to not pop open as it doesn't take much effort to overcome the over-center design when unlocked.
Thats it. Had my son riding along, I think his boot caught on the right side latch when he mounted,, a few miles down the road I noticed this shiny thing take off along the ground,, we were only going 25 mph, so no harm,, turns out I had not locked it on to the frame......

Added check of sidecase locks to pre flight inspection.
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:51 PM   #18
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If the R1200GS Adventure aluminum side cases are installed correctly, the only way I could think one could come off accidentally is if the latch is not locked as it is a simple over-center latch design. Once the latch is locked, unless the lock breaks there should be no way for the latch to open and the bag to slide forward 2" on the solid metal mounts and then fall off the bike.

There's no way I'd not lock the latches on my bags when installing and then trust the latch to not pop open as it doesn't take much effort to overcome the over-center design when unlocked.

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:00 PM   #19
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The vario top box is useless they come off all the time without the bolt down kit supplied by BMW. Not sure the OEM GSA aluminium set.

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I Cannot agree with this, as I have taken mine up and down the Dalton Highway and just got back from the Flying Monkey Adv. Rallye bouncing over rocks and washboard trails without it ever coming off.

If it was ever going to come loose it would have this weekend as the jarring was enough to puncture a bottle of water I had in it. Now I have to solve that issue, I guess putting it in a length of PVC pipe and capping the ends might work.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:22 PM   #20
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can you do a pictorial on this mod? Im very very very interested!
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:04 PM   #21
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can you do a pictorial on this mod? im very very very interested!
Away on holidays, will post a picture early next week.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:20 PM   #22
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im not sure if my cases are different but i cannot take my key out of the lock unless its locked open or shut ? im pretty sure anyway , ill check later .... in this case it cant be took off the bike ? or kicked by my big footed wife , done 20k with no hassel and crazy off road fully loaded .. mind you my friends vario did come past me on a few occasions in mexico .another reason i got the adv cases
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:51 AM   #23
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my mom once drove in to my parked bike with her car, popped the left alu case right off...

however it did not seem to have broken the lock, so or i forgot to lock it (i dont think so but still) or it popped of without damage...
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:31 AM   #24
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Vario Top & Side Cases

I have had the Vario top and side cases on my bike for about three years now and have never experienced a problem.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:39 AM   #25
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http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=810529

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Old 07-27-2012, 09:12 AM   #26
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can you do a pictorial on this mod? im very very very interested!
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FWIW, this link will take you to my anti-fly-off kit pictorial. Hope it helps.

Picture below shows the BMW retrofit pin described in pictorial. It is designed for the older Vario cases, to prevent them from moving fore-aft and slipping off the latch. To the best of my knowledge, newer cases already have this "centering pin", as BMW calls it.



As I mentioned before, there is also the "enduro kit", which simply bolts the case to the rack plate, but makes it non-removable. Some inmates here report on installing a spring pin + clip assembly, which resembles the enduro kit, but makes removal easier. That is not what is described in the above pictorial.

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Old 07-27-2012, 09:50 AM   #27
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Happened to me on my 2004 Adventure with BMW Adventure bags. Came to a stop at a stop sign, heard something behind me, looked over my shoulder to see my right pannier sliding up to the stop sign right behind me. Put a thick layer of tape on the upper bar that the bag slides under. I tightened it up enough to where the bag no longer wants to come off. I check the bags everyday to make sure they are still tight though.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:20 AM   #28
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I lost a Givi V35 off my Versys once. Hit a pot hole so mean it bent both my front and rear rims. Everyone who saw the aftermath was amazed I kept it up.

I lost a side case on my GSA once, but it was user error. Forgot to lock it, and under braking at about 35 MPH, I hear something sliding down the road next to me. HELLO Mr. Sidecase! It slide about 30ft. on the asphalt, but unless you look closely, you can't tell which one took a dive.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:20 PM   #29
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i have touratech bags and I can't figue how to get them off
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:24 PM   #30
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You can not remove the key from the aluminum Adventure panniers unless the latch is locked.
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