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Old 08-01-2012, 11:15 AM   #31
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Less pirate. More IDIOT!
It's amazing how many poseurs don't know how to ride. They all seem to crash at fairly low speeds. We are talking track day conditions here.

Fortunately for them, of course.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:24 AM   #32
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I've riddent that stretch a hundred times. I hate that corner---not because it's technically difficult-- it's not. But one moment you're cruising along and the next thing you know there are telephoto lenses pointed at you. By the time you see them, you are already turning the bike and it's easy to take your eyes off the apex. It's distracting as hell.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:43 AM   #33
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I've riddent that stretch a hundred times. I hate that corner---not because it's technically difficult-- it's not. But one moment you're cruising along and the next thing you know there are telephoto lenses pointed at you. By the time you see them, you are already turning the bike and it's easy to take your eyes off the apex. It's distracting as hell.
Ditto. And also you never know when you might have an idiot coming the other way on the wrong side of the road (cars or bikes).

I'll only ride that section of the snake early morning before the photographers have set up, and the idiots are still sleeping.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:58 AM   #34
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I've riddent that stretch a hundred times. I hate that corner---not because it's technically difficult-- it's not. But one moment you're cruising along and the next thing you know there are telephoto lenses pointed at you. By the time you see them, you are already turning the bike and it's easy to take your eyes off the apex. It's distracting as hell.
thankfully most roads have zero distractions?
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:08 PM   #35
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That does seem to be quite a coincidence. They all seem to lose it right after that dark section of road.
Looking at the slow motion shots, there appears to be a small bump in the pavement that causes the initial loss of traction.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:11 PM   #36
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This is an oldie but a classic

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Old 08-01-2012, 12:14 PM   #37
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and then there is the Douche bag in the red truck......

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Old 08-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #38
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"Sit down, bro!"

I love it when his flip-flop falls over the guardrail. Good times!
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:16 PM   #39
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Ouch.....classic hi-side

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Old 08-01-2012, 12:53 PM   #40
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Looking at the slow motion shots, there appears to be a small bump in the pavement that causes the initial loss of traction.
Looking at the high side vid above, I don't see too much suspension movement before he loses it but there are plenty of tire marks in the same place.
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:58 PM   #41
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thankfully most roads have zero distractions?
Most roads (and 99% of Mulholland) don't have paparazzi. There's another spot a little before this place where a lone photographer sits in the bushes on the left-hand side taking photos for his website. Sometimes the first thing you notice is the glare or reflection on his lens. He can startle you as well.

15 years ago it wasn't uncommon for photographers to be on the straightaways waiting for a cool car or Jay Leno to drive by (also in cool cars). On the straightaways at least there weren't any surprises. Obviously, based on the YouTube craze, these photographers realize the fame is in the crashes and/or poor cornering habits of riders/drivers.
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:20 PM   #42
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Looking at the slow motion shots, there appears to be a small bump in the pavement that causes the initial loss of traction.

I've been watching rnickeymouse's videos for a long time. Paraphrasing something he wrote in the comments a long time ago, that is more than a "small bump." There is a big heave there that loads/unloads/loads the suspension when you cross it.
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:21 PM   #43
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This is an oldie but a classic

Ouch! What's interesting is that given the way things went down (pun intended) his open face was all the protection his head needed.

(I am not advocating anything about helmets here. Just making an observation.)
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Most roads (and 99% of Mulholland) don't have paparazzi. There's another spot a little before this place where a lone photographer sits in the bushes on the left-hand side taking photos for his website. Sometimes the first thing you notice is the glare or reflection on his lens. He can startle you as well.
But there are other things that can startle or distract you. People can be on the sidewalk. Cars change lanes into you. Buses are pulled over. Pedestrians cross the street. In rural areas, deer can bound out of the bushes.

I have trouble seeing the difference.
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I've been watching rnickeymouse's videos for a long time. Paraphrasing something he wrote in the comments a long time ago, that is more than a "small bump." There is a big heave there that loads/unloads/loads the suspension when you cross it.
Thank you. That explains a lot.
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