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Old 08-03-2012, 01:29 PM   #16
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Not true, using R & R on 60/76 everything shows out to <2.0.

My bitch with CN in Nuvi is that towns don't show just a bunch of highway numbers which are meaningless to me. I want to know were towns are, I may want to go to one, dah! I could care less what the number of the highway is that goes there.

I even load R & R in my Nuvi so I can see minor roads that don't even show in CN as I drive along highway.
Sorry I was talking about current maps not 10yr old ones. I'm not the expert on Garmin Cartography but having code a few Garmin compatible maps I can share with you all that the maps determine what zoom levels display what data from the map. Garmin firmware code only determines what Garmin wants to show within the constraints of the map data so that you can adjust your own zoom level filtering. Garmin licenses most of their maps and routing data from Navteq and as far as I can tell all new map data that Garmin is contracting for does not have tertiary roads coded to show past 1.2 mile zoom level. On older maps, like Roads and Rec., data was coded to various levels above 1.2 mile zoom. On older GPS and therefore the maps of their day, map clutter was not really an issue since there was considerably less map data than there is today.

From my view point, I don't expect this condition to change any time soon.

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Old 08-03-2012, 05:48 PM   #17
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Sorry I was talking about current maps not 10yr old ones.
I don't expect this condition to change any time soon. Cheers,
Probably why so many dirt riders only use R & R.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:27 AM   #18
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What is R&R?
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:59 AM   #19
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Roads and Recreation, an old Garmin mapset.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:53 AM   #20
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Gave 'em 3 ideas today, including the zoom level.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:01 PM   #21
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Gave 'em 3 ideas today, including the zoom level.
The zoom level is a cartography issue. I had a dialogue back and forth with someone in the Garmin Cartography section last year and he explained it this way:

(Me) Can you tell me who makes the choice as to how much detail shows on the screen at any given zoom scale? Perhaps there could be some way set City Nav to display the same kind of detail as the Enhanced Basemaps? That would be the ideal solution, I think. It just seems like such a waste to have such detailed maps, such a great display on the Montana, yet so little visible map detail when we zoom out past the 1.2 km scale.

That would be a really awesome solution.


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Thank you for the reply.

A bit of it depends on us, but most depends on the data supplier and how they have classified the detail (collector roads, unpaved roads, arterial roads, and so forth).

I hear what you are talking about with the NavTeq data every so often and can understand based on my own experiences out in some rural areas here in the Lower 48.

They tend to lower classifications to “reduce clutter.”

I’m sure you have the detail set to most (it can help a little, but like I say you know what you are doing so I’m sure you have done that already).

I can’t do much, but I can pass that up the food chain, too. For what it is worth, I tend to (just from my own personal point of view) agree with you.

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Old 02-20-2013, 09:53 AM   #22
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The zoom level is a cartography issue. I had a dialogue back and forth with someone in the Garmin Cartography section last year and he explained it this way:
It may be a cartography issue, but I see more detail with Open Street Maps when zoomed out than I do with NAVTEQ maps.

Wha? I was going to tell you that another poster in this thread has the same experience and it turns out to be . . . Emmbeedee. You!
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:34 PM   #23
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I just realized this on my GPSMAP 78 and I cannot believe that they don't give us the option to choose in which zoom level every detail appears. That's one of the most obvious features that maps and GPS's offer, usually!
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:30 PM   #24
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I just realized this on my GPSMAP 78 and I cannot believe that they don't give us the option to choose in which zoom level every detail appears. That's one of the most obvious features that maps and GPS's offer, usually!
its the crappy software

designed by some nerd at a desk, not an actual adventurer

the old Roads and Recs shows it. better get one before they are all gone
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:04 AM   #25
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The thing is that R&R is only for USA, if I am not mistaking. I am looking for African maps. Actually, I found great maps: Garmin City Navigator Pan-Africa and Tracks4Africa have a lot of dirt roads, but I can see them only at 5 km zoom level and some of them only at 1.2 km zoom level!
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:49 AM   #26
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its the crappy software

designed by some nerd at a desk, not an actual adventurer
Wait, are you saying that software is actually developed by some nerd at a desk? Who knew?

As an actual adventurer, why don't you go ahead and develop some good software that we can all use?
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:09 AM   #27
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During beta on a certain Zumo unit, the detail level was changed on the fly with a firmware update (secondary roads originally where viewable on 0.8 scale and were reduced to 0.5 scale).
Complain, but done expect anything. I have been very vocal for years. My only minimal success may have been mapscale on the 660s; original release firmware came without mapscale!!
If any of the developers actually rode a motorcycle......
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:10 AM   #28
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This is a screen from StreetPilot 2720



From Zumo 660



Same lcation, same zoom level.
It seems they intentionally make it worse.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #29
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just submitted a complaint via the link that was provided in the first post.
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just submitted a complaint via the link that was provided in the first post.

It really is insane. As soon as you zoom out to actually tell where you are going, the road goes away. Have no one at Garmin actually used their product recently?
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