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View Results: What bike do you use hard for ADV travel
BMW Single 33 8.29%
BMW Boxer 96 24.12%
KTM Adventure 30 7.54%
KTM Single 18 4.52%
Suzuki Strom 50 12.56%
Other single 94 23.62%
Big Jap V-twin 9 2.26%
Hardcore Enduro 11 2.76%
Old School 7 1.76%
Other 62 15.58%
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:53 AM   #16
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I figured KLR650 would be at the top....

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Old 08-09-2012, 09:14 AM   #17
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I have owned 8 off pavement capable bikes. The Ducati E900 saw the least dirt, too big, fragile, and expensive to risk damaging. The Honda XL250, and the Ural Patrol I have now are probably tied for doing the most "adventure" riding.

The biggest lesson I learned is that real world usability trumps supposedly technical superiority.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:08 AM   #18
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I have owned 8 off pavement capable bikes. The Ducati E900 saw the least dirt, too big, fragile, and expensive to risk damaging. The Honda XL250, and the Ural Patrol I have now are probably tied for doing the most "adventure" riding.

The biggest lesson I learned is that real world usability trumps supposedly technical superiority.
Fragile? Expensive, maybe when new. Now, not so bad. But fragile? Nothing a set of crash bars won't fix. Motor is reliable, mods are easy, and there's nothing that can't be fabricated. The only thing I REALLY worry about breaking is the tank. Good luck finding that. As for the big part - well yeah, but still smaller than a lot of the new stuff. I'm a big guy so I throw it around alright.

I ride one or the other of my pair of Elefants daily.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:16 AM   #19
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No guys, the KLR is rare outside of the US so it seemed obvious to just dump it in with other Jap 650s. In fact around Europe and the Middle East the DR and XR are far more common but still not widely used. The BMW 650 is a bike i've encountered fairly frequently as well as the Tenere 660, a bike not available in the US at all but I've met three on the road, two in India, one in Thailand. I encountered two DRs in Pakistan and Iran and heard of several XRs but didn't get to meet the riders. I never heard of a KLR around me while scouring the forums because they're really not very popular. I owned one and in my opinion... they're not very good.
I didn't ignore the Honda C90, friend of mine rode one from Malaysia to England but that's rare enough to be dumped in with "others". I really regret not putting the BMW parallel twin on it's own.
As for "jap", I'm a "brit" and nobody on the road finds any of this offensive, not yanks, aussies, kiwis, japs, farrangs or any of the other stuff you hear daily in a large ex-pat community. It's political correctness gone mad. Most decent people have no problem with where they're from and those that do are really not worth my time, i find.
Interesting to see what's common on this site though, predominantly US biased. Next year I'm planning a trip over South America and I'm planning to source bikes on arrival. I'm thinking KLR from the point of view of boring reliability and parts availability. I just wish it went a bit faster!!!
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #20
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No guys, the KLR is rare outside of the US so it seemed obvious to just dump it in with other Jap 650s. !!!

So KLR's are rare in Australia, South America and Asia?
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:57 AM   #21
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Fragile? Expensive, maybe when new. Now, not so bad. But fragile? Nothing a set of crash bars won't fix. Motor is reliable, mods are easy, and there's nothing that can't be fabricated. The only thing I REALLY worry about breaking is the tank. Good luck finding that. As for the big part - well yeah, but still smaller than a lot of the new stuff. I'm a big guy so I throw it around alright.

I ride one or the other of my pair of Elefants daily.
Fargile? Maybe not the most accurate word, but when a 5 mph dump on gravel causes $1000 of damage in 90's $ its not a good fit for me.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:41 AM   #22
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R1200S is my adventure bike...

You can have adventures on paved roads as well, right?





Would love to get a gravel / off-road capable bike one day to see the other roads and views that are currently inaccessible to me!
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #23
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I've had three wop scooters, a dago moto guzzi ambassador, a couple of krout puch mopeds, a canuck can am, but my favorite have always been my nip rice burners. I swear those japs build shit better than anyone else. All the other crap fell apart, but my Hondas, Kawasakis, Suzukis and Yamahas took a harder beating than Betty Whites' vagina.

Had Puch, '75 Can Am Bombardier 175Q, '82 Kaw GPZ550, '86 Yam FZ600, '82 Vespa P200E, '63 Lambretta TV175, '69 Moto Guzzi Amabassador, Lambretta custom racer 200, '73 Hon 550 rigid chopper, Puch, '82 Hon CM400A, '04 Kaw KLR650, '86 Kaw 1500 BUBF, '78 Suz GS1000, '81 Hon GL1100A, '84 Hon GL1200 Asp, '79 Hon GL500D, '00 Kaw 1500 Drifter

Only bike I ever regret selling was the Kaw KLR650

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:10 PM   #24
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KLR here too

KLR650 here. Actually TWO of 'em. Like my 2008 so much I bought a 2006 as the tug bike for my sidecar rig. Stone-axe reliable, simple to work on, super parts availability....love 'em.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:16 PM   #25
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The obvious and glaring omission is the KLR 650. I'd be VERY surprised if it wasn't the most commonly used.

Pretty worthless poll, IMO.

"No guys, the KLR is rare outside of the US so it seemed obvious to just dump it in with other Jap 650s. In fact around Europe and the Middle East the DR and XR are far more common but still not widely used."
So, why include the US in your poll?
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:45 PM   #26
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Fargile? Maybe not the most accurate word, but when a 5 mph dump on gravel causes $1000 of damage in 90's $ its not a good fit for me.
Sure, that's fair. Breaking things can get expensive. Still, I wouldn't think it would be any more than it would cost to dump a nice new GS, Tiger, or 990Adv, though. Adventure tourer, yes - beater bike, not so much. For really hardcore stuff, a 650 single is probably a better bet. Still, a set of hepco crashbars and some smart choices in other farkles can protect from most tipovers.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:21 PM   #27
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Sure, that's fair. Breaking things can get expensive. Still, I wouldn't think it would be any more than it would cost to dump a nice new GS, Tiger, or 990Adv, though. Adventure tourer, yes - beater bike, not so much. For really hardcore stuff, a 650 single is probably a better bet. Still, a set of hepco crashbars and some smart choices in other farkles can protect from most tipovers.
Thats why I like the Ural so much, really hard to dump and parts are comparitivly inexpensive.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:36 PM   #28
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You might want to redo your poll if you can.

I think the KLR650 might be the most common ADV bike, but your poll would group it and the DR650 into "other single".
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:46 PM   #29
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I'll have to jump on the KLR bandwagon. I've owned one Boxer, one Transalp, and THREE KLR 650s......
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:50 PM   #30
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No box for KLR to check? I guess the KLR riders wouln't pay enough to get a seperate box to check....


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