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Old 08-24-2012, 06:42 AM   #241
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He still gets to keep the millions in endorsements and stuff that he got from winning. How do you keep score?

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Old 08-24-2012, 06:42 AM   #242
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:50 AM   #243
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:51 AM   #244
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Fuck Travis and the USADA, bunch of jhonnie come naughts.

Good for you Lance, kick em in the ass.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:55 AM   #245
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So he's given up the fight... But still denies doping...

Seems hard not to see it as an admission of guilt.

Feh, perhaps he is just sick of the bullshit. And Tygart is just depeleting his resources while trying to defend himself against tests he passed, hundreds of times, with his silly organization. It is proof of nothing that Lance said enough; and it is all hearsay evidence. If someone steps forward and says I administered it to him; other than that, it is wildass speculation by some f'ing puss lawyer.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:11 AM   #246
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No story at 11 NICO (childish response by the way)
The story I read at APnews just looks like a busybody agency had an ax to grind with Armstrong.
The man passed numerous drug tests during his winning streak prior to his retirement.
Armstrong gives them a big FUCK YOU I ain't playing your game and they give him a bigger FUCK YOU right back.
Just kind of sad this can happen to an inspirational athlete especially after the guy has retired.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:14 AM   #247
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:21 AM   #248
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Lance sucks. He left his wife that supported him through cancer. If he did in fact use illegal drugs, as he is admitting to by default, he deserves this and more.
Better snopes that one.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:23 AM   #249
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A pretty self serving statement from Lance. If he was truly innocent and believed it he would have gone to court. I'm guessing, despite his claims, that the eye witness accounts of his doping are accurate and overwhelming.

It's telling that the professional racing community were collectively willing to go along with the myth of Lance - there must have been a lot of gravy at stake.
Don't confuse a USADA hearing with a court proceeding. Remember, the US government dropped its case just over 6 months ago. Were they bought off, or did they realize that they wouldn't have enough evidence to prosecute in a trial using the laws of this land that we hold so dear?

Not only was Lance tested heavily, he was investigated repeatedly throughout his career. Each time the result was the same...not enough evidence. I don't blame him one damn bit for not wanting to face USADA's hearing/farce. An organization taking on a case that the best investigators this country has to offer recently dropped, smells of a witch hunt.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:32 AM   #250
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If somebody spent a decade yelling "I don't believe you" at me, despite my best efforts, I'd probably give up trying too.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:44 AM   #251
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I personally think Lance Armstrong showed extraordianary forbearance in tolerating their bullshit all these years, and I blame him not at all for tell them that the would be be happy if he hung 'em with a NEW rope.

You go Lance.

They aught to require, MANDATE that these governing bodies be made up exclusively of people who have actually participated and WON many races, rather than losers who went into managment as their way to authority.

And yea, USADA is not a court of law, so their 'authority' is bullshit anyway except in their own minds.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:19 AM   #252
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Thanks Paul.

Sad day in cycling

Lance is a bigger person than cycling alone, always has been.
and that's most likely why they hate him

many people still obsessed with defeating him somehow
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:28 AM   #253
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And yea, USADA is not a court of law, so their 'authority' is bullshit anyway except in their own minds.
This. The USADA is nothing but a kangaroo court that puts on show trials. While they are at it, why don't they nullify every Superbowl Championship and World Series for the last 30 years? After all, those are American events played in the USA by teams of steroid freaks. There's an interesting article in a recent issue of Outside magazine about how the USADA is stripping amateur competitors of wins in little local triathlons and bicycle races because of cold/allergy medicine. Its getting beyond ridiculous. Glad I don't race anymore. Not worth the hassle.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:51 AM   #254
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It'll all come out one way or another ... I'm not sure why else Johan would step aside and sit out the Tour, or why former teammates would bow out of the Olympics, or why 10 other yet-to-be-named cyclists were willing to testify at the arbitration hearings. And then there were the little matters of a $250k donation to the UCI in the way of blood test equipment, and $450K to a certain Dr. Ferrari ... hmmm ...

As for "500 tests"? Complete B.S. ... nowhere near that number. For example, http://www.usada.org/athlete-test-history

"Never failed a test" is another way of saying "never got caught".

Oh wait, nevermind ... it's just a "witch hunt" ...

This is only the beginning ...
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:55 AM   #255
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If somebody spent a decade yelling "I don't believe you" at me, despite complying with and passing every single test and control at any time anywhere throughout my entire career, I'd probably give up trying too.
Clarified...
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