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08-27-2012, 07:50 AM
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You're probably right, though there will be fewer and fewer air cooled bikes going forward as standards get stricter. If they axe the CB1000R and price this significantly below that, I could see it doing pretty well.
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08-27-2012, 08:23 AM
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Hegelian Scum
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Asheville NC
Oddometer: 3,496
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No. He's definitely right.
No one holds a candle to Honda when it comes to powertrain engineering. Emissions testing worry with Honda is like asking Evel Kneivel if he can drive a 6 speed.
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08-27-2012, 11:20 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Now why would they have a bike on hand if they're not planning on selling the bike? |
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08-27-2012, 01:09 PM
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Zwei Kolben
Joined: May 2005
Location: Mike's Sky Rancho
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Get a feel for the public's reaction. There have been lots and lots of bikes that have come here to vet their market viability and have never made it past that process.
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08-27-2012, 02:28 PM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Location: 40 Square Miles Surrounded By Reality (Madison Wi)
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08-27-2012, 03:18 PM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Allen, TX
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I can't imagine this bike not selling. Triumph is selling scads of those underpowered, over-styled twins. This bike is tight. Make mine the red one with a silver engine...! ,BK
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08-27-2012, 03:32 PM
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Joined: Jun 2010
Location: Kingston, Washington
Oddometer: 124
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Pre-production? It's been in production for 2 years. Print the warning labels in English, put on a MPH odometer, and call it good. Damn you Honda if you hadn't already sold me an NC700X when I had the cash in hand to buy this last year. Maytag Repairman screwed with this post 08-27-2012 at 03:44 PM |
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08-27-2012, 04:17 PM
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Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Elizabeth City, NC
Oddometer: 54
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Yep! That'll be the first bike I every buy new. My wife doesn't have to worry about me dropping the money for it cause Honda will never build it and if they somehow do, it'll never come to the US.
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08-27-2012, 04:17 PM
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Studly Adventurer
Joined: May 2007
Location: SW Florida
Oddometer: 880
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It'll sell if the price is right. Under $9.5k would work, any more and it'll gather dust on the show room floor.
Regards, Paul
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08-27-2012, 04:34 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Aug 2012
Location: Orlando Fl
Oddometer: 303
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I think I'll stick with my 919.
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08-27-2012, 07:49 PM
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08-27-2012, 10:50 PM
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Studly Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Melcher, Iowa
Oddometer: 607
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I really like this bike, it looks great and I like the classic looks a great deal. That said, it doesn't excite me enough to drop 10k on it, I'd be a bottom feeder hoping to pick up a 3-4yr old used one dirt cheap
Given the specs, it'd have to be one of those bikes that just worked fantastically well to sell in any viable quantity at all. Being a Honda it very well have what it takes though.
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08-28-2012, 12:39 AM
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Joined: Jun 2011
Location: South Australia
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They've been selling them in Australia since they were released in Japan and they haven't sold very well, despite the huge market for 'retro' stuff here. You can hardly spit without hitting a Bonneville or Sportster and the Kawsaki W800 has sold in hundreds. (I own a W800 - brilliant bike - and an 07 XL Sportster myself.) The 1100 is around $AUS14K on the road - about the same as the entry-level Sportster, $1K more than the base model Bonneville and about $2K more than a W800.
Having owned about half a dozen CB750s over the years I was very interested in the 1100 until I chucked a leg over one. It is pretty enough in its way, but up close it is physically small, the seat is nasty, the riding position for both rider and pillion is nothing like a CB750, being more like a Suzuki Bandit, and the tank only holds about 3.5 US gallons. The single exhaust doesn't do much for its looks on the left side either. I'm a big fan of old bikes having started riding in the 60's, but this one just hasn't done anything for me at all, mainly because the ergos are standard modern stuff; not a good pillion bike. A mate had one and was very disappointed with it - the motor was OK but the rest of it - ergos, handling, fuel range, general build quality etc - was a big letdown. He has done ground up rebuilds on several K1 and K2 CB750s and owns a good selection of 'classic' Honda 4s in various models so he has had enough experience with the originals. If you want to see some more pics, here's a link for the model on an Australian bike sales site. CB1100F |
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08-28-2012, 06:22 AM
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Zwei Kolben
Joined: May 2005
Location: Mike's Sky Rancho
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Do you really think it is that simple? Hell, they can just throw a few in a box, put it on a boat, and see what happens. That might be OK for a small manufacturer, do you think that is a workable solution for the goliath Honda?
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08-28-2012, 08:03 AM
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Hegelian Scum
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Asheville NC
Oddometer: 3,496
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Fireblade/CBR is the same bike but with US appointments. That seems to work.
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