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Old 09-03-2012, 04:12 AM   #3226
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I'm curious, whenever someone types in 'Tenere' on ADV do you get an email so you can respond
Did someone just type Tenere?

You may have noticed I don't post here much. But they are still D.I.D rims regardless. Same as the Tenere.

Why not? They have proven to mostly survive a 260Kg bike so a pretty safe bet I would say.

If you buy one, check the spokes every so often.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:21 AM   #3227
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According to a poster on Triumph Torque, when the project leader of the XC was asked why no big tank, he replied that the large fuel cell adversely affected handling.
They clearly don't respond to what the market wants. You can always keep it half full when going through technical offroad stuff. But when you need the range or don't feel like stopping every two hours on an interstate, it is nice to have that option. What's gonna happen now is that people will put on Rotopax or other containers and their balance will be even worse than with a built-in larger tank.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:02 AM   #3228
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Some guy in the UK is having a bigger tank made for his T12. Not sure what capacity it'll be though..
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:57 AM   #3229
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How come a bike designed back in 2002 can handle the load and one in 2012 can't?


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Old 09-03-2012, 10:16 AM   #3230
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he replied that the large fuel cell adversely affected handling.
Then they haven't looked hard enough. Though even on the normal explorer, the fuel is so high and wide, that I'm not surprised. It's not easy to engineer something that works so nicely as the GS Adventure.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:37 AM   #3231
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According to a poster on Triumph Torque, when the project leader of the XC was asked why no big tank, he replied that the large fuel cell adversely affected handling.
When I read the Cycle World review of the big Tigger and they complained about the bike knifing and tucking off road, I wondered if the steering head angle was playing a role there. Maybe a larger tank and more weight up front makes this even worse. I know folks w/ the 800 don't seem to have any issues at all w/ theirs off road, and I believe the steering angle is almost identical, but there's a lot more at play than just rake angle (total weight, weight distribution, etc). Maybe the bigger tank on the TigEx really made it a handful. It would be too bad if that's the case because it might not be possible for the aftermarket to come out with a big tank that "fixes" that problem, so folks could be stuck w/ Rotopax, etc. to keep the weight off the front end if you really needed to carry extra fuel.

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Old 09-03-2012, 10:46 AM   #3232
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If I had the money (if)... I would get a Tiger 800XC AND a Tiger Explorer. Might get the new Ex XC too if pricing was decent, mainly because I love that green. But in truth, the Ex would never see anything more than dirt roads. So I doubt handling would be an issue for me. I'm too short and it's too big for me to handle on anything more than that.

An upside of the Ex XC is that really the only difference between it and the regular Ex are the wheels. And I bet the aftermarket will have decent (if not superior) solutions available within a year or so. The crash bars and skidplate are already available from Triumph or the aftermarket. So it really comes down to... do you like the green? If not, you have three other color choices.

Heck I bet the aftermarket will also offer a 21" front wheel and fender mods for those who really want to go that far.

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Old 09-03-2012, 12:44 PM   #3233
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How come a bike designed back in 2002 can handle the load and one in 2012 can't?
What makes you think the TigEx can't?

GVWR on the Strom you pictured is 965lbs. With a wet weight of 525lbs (spec sheet), that's 440lbs of "load" (you, all your crap, etc). The wet weight of the big Tigger is 570lbs (spec sheet), with a GVWR of 1060lbs, for 490lbs of load.

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Old 09-03-2012, 03:44 PM   #3234
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What makes you think the TigEx can't?

GVWR on the Strom you pictured is 965lbs. With a wet weight of 525lbs (spec sheet), that's 440lbs of "load" (you, all your crap, etc). The wet weight of the big Tigger is 570lbs (spec sheet), with a GVWR of 1060lbs, for 490lbs of load.

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Old 09-03-2012, 06:19 PM   #3235
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Yes, but it will adversely affect handling...

I think you're reading something into what's been said that isn't there. I think the comment re. handling had to do with a larger stock fuel tank, not the GVWR of the bike.

Having said that, ANY bike loaded to it's GVWR max is going to handle "adversely".

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Old 09-03-2012, 07:44 PM   #3236
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My posts have little sarcasm in them, just a little... Give me a larger fuel tank and I'll deal with it... It's an Adventure-Touring bike after all...

Here, hope it's not gonna affect my handling





By the way, notice my exhaust - being replaced under warranty - some rust spots I guess


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Old 09-03-2012, 07:57 PM   #3237
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My posts have little sarcasm in them, just a little... Give me a larger fuel tank and I'll deal with it... It's an Adventure-Touring bike after all...

Here, hope it's not gonna affect my handling





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Old 09-03-2012, 08:10 PM   #3238
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It's made of cast aluminum alloy...
Who cares? :) I showed it to mechanic at the dealer and he asked if something was rubbing... I said yes, I strapped my bags with bungee cords to the exhaust can... He said, really???

I keep my bike in the garage and didn't have anything up until I returned from 4600 wet miles... Bike and I were riding under rain for 8 days out of 12 total... Even I had "rust" spots on my body when we returned... I guess Canadian Mosquitos liked the blood in my alcohol system or something...


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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #3239
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I gotta run to work, Ill make this quick.

After getting the run around from the dealer, I picked mine up late thurs.

Got about 80mi on her before setting out sat morn heading over to the middle of PA to a place we frequent. Backroads, its about 260 mi. GPS said about 6 hrs.

Bout halfway in, "bat low" light would come up on the dash. Would intermittently come and go. Nearing destination, it came up, and I had to stop for gas. Tried to restart, battery completely dead.

Come to find battery wire coming off alt was not tight. Not charging the battery, and was getting hot and looked as if it had arched some from the loose connection. Havent talked to the dealer yet, except when I was stuck in the gas station parking lot asking him why my new bike would have a dead batt. And he was not happy with me.

Details when I get home.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:38 AM   #3240
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Here are my initial impressions for what they're worth:

The wind screen really surprised me. It's small and gives clean smooth air in its lowest position. The cruise control is all that you could ask for.

The power reminds me of my Tiger 1050 but with more low end torque. It's smooth power but not too smooth (aka Goldwing). It accelerates like the FJR but corners much, much better. The COG is a bit higher than the GS (I had an 08 and 10, put 40k on them) so it's not quite as flickable into the corners but the difference isn't that much. Once into the curve it sticks like glue on a line. And its turning radius is smaller than the GS, which surprised me.

Maintenance looks to be pretty low. You inspect the valves once at 10k and that's it Spark plugs every 20k, synthetic oil change every 10k (and it doesn't burn oil even when new), throttle body synch (via computer no less) every 10k, etc... Here's a link to the maintenance schedule:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B95...HhCYXdHVjItY0E

The cost to value and grin factor for $$ are excellent
Interesting ... so are you saying the valves get checked/adjusted at 10,000 miles and then never again?

Funny but maintenanice costs are important factor for me and have heard different intervals for the explorer. Last I read was valves are every 20,000 but man 10K and forget it sounds better! I did hear the cost to DO the valve adjustment can be 5+ hours labor???
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