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Old 09-05-2012, 04:53 PM   #5431
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The procedure is not given in the 690 owner's manuals, but is the same as given in KTM dirt bike manuals for bikes which have adjustable fork offset. Remember, more offset means less trail (quicker turning) while less offset means more trail (better stability at speed). Here is an image from a page in a dirt bike manual (the offset values are different). The dot on the top of the steering stem (cap off) at the rear corresponds to the max offset setting. The procedure is to disassemble the forks and loosen the stem at the bottom clamp and rotate the dot to the front to give the smaller offset value.

THIS, could revolutionize my ride. Can't believe I didn't know about it. Thanks!
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:44 AM   #5432
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The procedure is not given in the 690 owner's manuals, but is the same as given in KTM dirt bike manuals for bikes which have adjustable fork offset. Remember, more offset means less trail (quicker turning) while less offset means more trail (better stability at speed). Here is an image from a page in a dirt bike manual (the offset values are different). The dot on the top of the steering stem (cap off) at the rear corresponds to the max offset setting. The procedure is to disassemble the forks and loosen the stem at the bottom clamp and rotate the dot to the front to give the smaller offset value.

thanks for explain it!
Where can I find this manual?
I have donwloaded the owners manual of the 530 exc and the 450 sxf and I can't find this picture.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:13 AM   #5433
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Had the afternoon off and the job completed - test ride tomorow-
Thanks guys for helping thoughts yas might like a pic
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:05 AM   #5434
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thanks for explain it!
Where can I find this manual?
I have donwloaded the owners manual of the 530 exc and the 450 sxf and I can't find this picture.
If the manuals are for current models, they no longer have adjustable offset triple clamps. Use manuals for bikes 2010 and earlier.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:30 AM   #5435
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:57 PM   #5436
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OK - theres good news and bad - first up the bad
It did not cure the headshake, I give up i have tried everything i might as well gear it down and not go over 130 kph
Now for the good news, it feels so much better to ride more comfy and on the dirt "fantastic" it has taken that tipping over from the front out - i have had three offs on dirt where the front wheel has slid from under me making me highside and it has taken that feel away - i know peeps will say yeah but it wont corner as well but i corner with alot of rear wheel so it feels better more planted up front

so thats a and a
p.s the windsheild didn't take the headshake away either i don't know if i mentioned that
p.s.s going to start on the fuel filter on the weekend anything i should know about
p.s.s.s just went for a spin with the missus on the back no speed wobble at all

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Old 09-06-2012, 08:26 PM   #5437
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us 'mericans dont know KMPH but i take mine to 100 mph dirt and pavement............it is squirlie on groved pavement even at 65 and it will wag a bit on the dirt especially if its got many tracks and soft but it has never been anything that was scary

always on knobs mostly m-12 on the front and whatever on the back 17 lbs both tires. they are balanced and have rim locks
forks are on the first line from the top and i usually have a safari tank and full or empty dont seem to matter.

is your front axle square? rear tire aligned? sag set properly?

sorry man out of ideas
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #5438
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OK - theres good news and bad - first up the bad
It did not cure the headshake, I give up i have tried everything i might as well gear it down and not go over 130 kph
Now for the good news, it feels so much better to ride more comfy and on the dirt "fantastic" it has taken that tipping over from the front out - i have had three offs on dirt where the front wheel has slid from under me making me highside and it has taken that feel away - i know peeps will say yeah but it wont corner as well but i corner with alot of rear wheel so it feels better more planted up front

so thats a and a
p.s the windsheild didn't take the headshake away either i don't know if i mentioned that
p.s.s going to start on the fuel filter on the weekend anything i should know about Don't kink the fuel line
p.s.s.s just went for a spin with the missus on the back no speed wobble at all
this tell me that is a preload issue , have you played with the fork preloads ?


Answer these for me please
.? Is it still tucking under or pushing out wide ?
How much do you weigh with gear ,
What springs do you have
what psi

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Old 09-06-2012, 10:09 PM   #5439
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Had the afternoon off and the job completed - test ride tomorow-
Thanks guys for helping thoughts yas might like a pic
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:50 PM   #5440
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us 'mericans dont know KMPH but i take mine to 100 mph dirt and pavement............it is squirlie on groved pavement even at 65 and it will wag a bit on the dirt especially if its got many tracks and soft but it has never been anything that was scary

always on knobs mostly m-12 on the front and whatever on the back 17 lbs both tires. they are balanced and have rim locks
forks are on the first line from the top and i usually have a safari tank and full or empty dont seem to matter.

is your front axle square? rear tire aligned? sag set properly?

sorry man out of ideas

Similar experience for me although I usually run 22 psi. Never ever felt like the bike was gonna spit me off at speed.
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:41 AM   #5441
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If the manuals are for current models, they no longer have adjustable offset triple clamps. Use manuals for bikes 2010 and earlier.
I found the manuals for actual models, but I can't find for older models. Where can I donwload this manuals?
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:28 AM   #5442
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this tell me that is a preload issue , have you played with the fork preloads ?


Answer these for me please
.? Is it still tucking under or pushing out wide ?
How much do you weigh with gear ,
What springs do you have
what psi
Mate i play with all the clickers non stop trying to sort out a solution but come back to the comfort setting everytime.
Now that i have dropped the forks and adjusted the offset she's riding nice no tucking under now.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:56 AM   #5443
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are they still using the .52 fork springs in the 11/12 bike there too hard for you drop down to.48 or .49 you can do this two ways buy a pair of springs or get your hand on one .46 or 48 .46 + .52 =.49 Or .48+.52 = .50
So if you have a friend with same bike you can go half each
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:17 AM   #5444
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I found the manuals for actual models, but I can't find for older models. Where can I donwload this manuals?
Thanks
A Google search produced the link:

http://www.ktm.com/dealer-service/se...documents.html
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:40 AM   #5445
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are they still using the .52 fork springs in the 11/12 bike there too hard for you drop down to.48 or .49 you can do this two ways buy a pair of springs or get your hand on one .46 or 48 .46 + .52 =.49 Or .48+.52 = .50
So if you have a friend with same bike you can go half each
What MudGuts said. I'm about the same weight and have changed my rear spring to a 94Nm spring (stiffer than stock) and it has certainly improved things. Also, if you want to drop some cash, a set of SXS closed chamber forks will improve things. The stock fork springs are too hard and I'd go for a pair of the .48 (4.8Nm)
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