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Old 09-12-2012, 11:20 PM   #69061
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Three weeks ago.

Nice! What bikes did you rent (or buy) to get up there? Ride Report?
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:19 AM   #69062
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Did you have to push? Did you or the bike need oxygen?

It's 8:30 pm here, what time is it there?

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Old 09-13-2012, 06:26 AM   #69063
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I just mounted up a front 606 on my DR and I have 705's on my WeeStrom. The front 705 howls like a banshee at 40-50 mph. Maybe the wind and other things drown it out on the DR, but the 606 is silent in comparison. But .... I started with 22 psi in the 606 and it was feeling pretty loose around 65-68 indicated. The old Trailwing was very stable up to indicated 95 or so. I bumped the 606 up to 30 psi and it's a bit better, but definitely not as stable as the Bridgestone. I balanced it myself and know it's good. Otherwise I like the 606 ... I only tried a short stretch of hardpack, but much better than the Trailwing and it sticks just fine in the twisties.

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Did you forget to put air in the 705's or something? The 606 was the noisy enough to drown out headphones at freeway speeds. The 705 at the same speed barely makes enough noise to be heard at all.

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Old 09-13-2012, 06:37 AM   #69064
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Three weeks ago.

from wiki:
"Taglang La, elevation 5,328 metres (17,480 ft), is a high mountain pass located in Ladakh region of the Indianstate of Jammu and Kashmir.

The elevation in metres, which is taken from a local sign, is in agreement with SRTM data. The sign incorrectly claims 17582 feet, which would be 5359 metres, and incorrectly claims the world’s second highest motorable pass. It is reached via 21 Gata loops along the Leh-Manali Highway.

There are higher motorable passes at Kaksang La, Chang La, Khardung La and several more locations in Tibet."

still - WERY cool!!!

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Old 09-13-2012, 06:39 AM   #69065
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I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I go into the any of the local Suzi/Kawi shops, and I get "we can order that." And this is for stuff that the FSM calls for to be replaced every time the bike is serviced, like the crush washers, and cam cover gaskets. It just makes me glad that I don't actually take my bikes to them to have any work done. First time I did the valve adjustment on my KLR, I didn't find the size shims I needed before I got to the fourth phone number.
Had to go to 2 different dealers to get the shims I needed for my DL the last time I did a valve adjustment plus 1 other dealer didn't have any of the ones I needed. What's hilarious, I get my shims for my 690 from the local Harley dealer and they have a well stocked shim kit. What's really funny, the shims from the Harley dealer run $2.50, the shims from the the Jap dealers are anywhere from $6 to $7.50.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:34 AM   #69066
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Had to go to 2 different dealers to get the shims I needed for my DL the last time I did a valve adjustment plus 1 other dealer didn't have any of the ones I needed. What's hilarious, I get my shims for my 690 from the local Harley dealer and they have a well stocked shim kit. What's really funny, the shims from the Harley dealer run $2.50, the shims from the the Jap dealers are anywhere from $6 to $7.50.
When I owned Harleys parts were always very reasonaby priced compared to Japenese bike parts.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:51 AM   #69067
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When I owned Harleys parts were always very reasonaby priced compared to Japenese bike parts.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:11 AM   #69068
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When I owned Harleys parts were always very reasonaby priced compared to Japenese bike parts.
+Harley dealers have lots and lots of parts in stock.

Had to order a clutch cable from the local dealer for my DR. In his words, "we don't normally stock any cables".
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:25 AM   #69069
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+Harley dealers have lots and lots of parts in stock.

Had to order a clutch cable from the local dealer for my DR. In his words, "we don't normally stock any cables".
If the Japanese used the same parts since 1938 like Harley does then of course it would be easy to keep them in stock.

This is not an exaggeration. I just looked up (at random) the oil pump for a 2012 Sportster. one item is a fitting - part number 63533-41A. That '-41A' at the end of the number means it was first used in 1941. Same part still being used in current production bikes 70 years later. That kind of part longevity makes it easy to keep parts in stock and keep part prices low. It also means you give up a lot of improvement and innovation.

Japanese brand motorcycle dealer parts departments have an nearly impossible task. We want them to always have the parts we need on hand but the economics of the business don't allow that. When I started in the motorcycle parts business back in the early 80s our rule of thumb to justify keeping an item in stock was it has to make at least 4 turns per year. That means if you only sold 2 or 3 VF750S Saber speedometer cables per year stocking them would be a money loosing decision. In these modern days of shrinking margins the things you keep on hand better move faster than that if you want to stay in business.

A current mid sized dealer might sell a million dollars in parts per year. That sales volume might justify around $200,000 of inventory. A good parts manager has to spend that money wisely. There are probably well over a thousand Suzuki cable part numbers. Will the DR650 clutch cable make the cut? Doubtful, especially when the dealer can have a factory cable delivered in a few days or an aftermarket equivalent in a day or two.

When I went to work for a Honda dealer in 1982 Honda had 52 motorcycle & ATV models for sale that year alone. Of course they offer new models or changes to old models every year. The more we get of new models and improvements to old models the more more new part numbers are generated and the more difficult it becomes for the dealer to have any meaningful stock of replacement parts.

We can complain all we want about dealers not having parts in stock but that is not going to change any time soon. What has changed and is continuing to improve is the time it takes to get those parts from the parts warehouse to the buyer.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:30 AM   #69070
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Very accurate comments!
On long adventure-travel rides (especially out of USA) big Horse power means nothing ... and is useless. The above points listed are what counts on a loaded up bike 4000 miles from home.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:49 AM   #69071
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When I owned Harleys parts were always very reasonaby priced compared to Japenese bike parts.
I had similar experiences with Buell. Hated having to weave my way through the weekend pirates and having to wait for the guy in front of me trying to figure out which chrome polish was the best, but the parts prices were reasonable. I'm starting to think that the Japanese brands sell many of the bikes as loss leaders just to make money on parts afterwards.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:04 AM   #69072
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Speaking of ordering parts, has anyone here ever done business with RegulatorRectifier.com? All the forum posts I've read said that they were the place to go for things like, say, a pulser coil. I placed an order with them and Procycle on the same day last week on Friday or Saturday. I get order confirmation emails from both almost immediately. Come Monday morning, I have a "your product has shipped" notice from Procycle. As of yesterday, the Procycle order has arrived and I still haven't heard anything back from the regulatorrectifier.com folks. I'm normally not too fussy about ordering parts, but I do hate seeing my bike up on stands in the garage instead of out riding. So has anyone else had any experience with them in the past?
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:10 AM   #69073
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Did you forget to put air in the 705's or something? The 606 was the noisy enough to drown out headphones at freeway speeds. The 705 at the same speed barely makes enough noise to be heard at all.

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:14 AM   #69074
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This is not an exaggeration. I just looked up (at random) the oil pump for a 2012 Sportster. one item is a fitting - part number 63533-41A. That '-41A' at the end of the number means it was first used in 1941. Same part still being used in current production bikes 70 years later. That kind of part longevity makes it easy to keep parts in stock and keep part prices low. It also means you give up a lot of improvement and innovation.
Odd, when I look up that part number, I get "Product ID: 63533-41A, FITTING, STRAIGHT" from one site, and from another "FITTING, STRAIGHT, W/SEALANT (63533-41A)", with a price between $3.99 and 3.75. I'm pretty sure that isn't an oil pump. I'm no fan of HD and their business practices, but it seems pushing it with the misinformation.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:23 AM   #69075
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Odd, when I look up that part number, I get "Product ID: 63533-41A, FITTING, STRAIGHT" from one site, and from another "FITTING, STRAIGHT, W/SEALANT (63533-41A)", with a price between $3.99 and 3.75. I'm pretty sure that isn't an oil pump. I'm no fan of HD and their business practices, but it seems pushing it with the misinformation.
Read Procycle's comment more carefully, especially the part that says " I just looked up (at random) the oil pump for a 2012 Sportster. one item is a fitting - part number 63533-41A".
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