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Old 09-13-2012, 10:39 AM   #69091
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Read Procycle's comment more carefully, especially the part that says " I just looked up (at random) the oil pump for a 2012 Sportster. one item is a fitting - part number 63533-41A".
I still see the statement as misleading. Imagine if Suzuki were to put the year on their parts, well other than making crossrefferencing much easier, we'd be able to see that Suzuki has been using the same banjo bolt in the brakes since before time started. Seriously, it's a straight fitting, and it has been updated at least once since Harley went to the current part numbering system (the A at the end.)

I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:52 AM   #69092
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705 vs 606

I have to agree... the 705's for me are damn near silent. When I ran 606's on my DR650, their whine was audible over the wind noise (with earplugs in).

I run Kenda Trackmaster II's on my KLX250S, and they while pretty good too on the road, but I'm not sure they're as loud as the 606's.

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Old 09-13-2012, 11:31 AM   #69093
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I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
I personally did not see where anyone was bad mouthing HD. Even for making the same part since 1941 is that really a bad thing?
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:41 AM   #69094
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I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
I'd hardly call what Procycle said as bad mouthing.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:43 AM   #69095
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While I'm no fan of Harleys (more due to their excessive Bling factor and the fact that many of their proponents are in it more for the image than for the ride), I can appreciate the "old" parts that never change. The Japanese tend to reinvent everything every 4-6 years just for the sake of reinventing it. I say, if it ain't broke, don't reinvent it. But then you can't really laud Harley for this to keep costs low because their bikes are massively overpriced (IMO).

Crap I don't remember where I was going with this. Oh well. Love that DR650! :)

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Old 09-13-2012, 11:48 AM   #69096
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I still see the statement as misleading. Imagine if Suzuki were to put the year on their parts, well other than making crossrefferencing much easier, we'd be able to see that Suzuki has been using the same banjo bolt in the brakes since before time started. Seriously, it's a straight fitting, and it has been updated at least once since Harley went to the current part numbering system (the A at the end.)

I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
Really it's a damn fitting, how long did the Military use the Willy's. Theres something to be said for parts interchangeability...hey wait a minute, when was the last time time frickin DR got an update? I think they went from a junky under the perch clutch switch to a plunger style a few years back...oooh.....ahhhhh, lets not forget the BNG they get every other year or so. I could be wrong about this too but it might be possible that HD sells a few more bikes than Suzuki sells DR's.

Straight Male Gas/Oil Fitting, Chrome OEM 63533-41A SKU 40-0566

I'm not sure any improvement is even necessary here. I'd be willing to listen to suggestions though. Been the same for 70 years... go figure.


You can cross reference Suzuki parts quite easily if you are creative in your online searches.

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Old 09-13-2012, 02:57 PM   #69097
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Well............that the hey,parts are parts,just be lucky that you can get them in a some what timely manner.Sheeesh
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:17 PM   #69098
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My girlfriend is all about the five bikes as long as I let her have her five bikes as well. And yes, she has a sister.
Hehe, my wife and I definitely have no restraint when it comes to bikes. I think we have 8 in the garage right now. She really doesn't seem to mind since she just got a 2012 Ducati Monster 696 about a month ago.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:47 PM   #69099
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While I'm no fan of Harleys (more due to their excessive Bling factor and the fact that many of their proponents are in it more for the image than for the ride), I can appreciate the "old" parts that never change. The Japanese tend to reinvent everything every 4-6 years just for the sake of reinventing it. I say, if it ain't broke, don't reinvent it. But then you can't really laud Harley for this to keep costs low because their bikes are massively overpriced (IMO).

Crap I don't remember where I was going with this. Oh well. Love that DR650! :)

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Then there is the fitting they SHOULD change due to obvious failure and they don't.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:58 PM   #69100
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Odd, when I look up that part number, I get "Product ID: 63533-41A, FITTING, STRAIGHT" from one site, and from another "FITTING, STRAIGHT, W/SEALANT (63533-41A)", with a price between $3.99 and 3.75. I'm pretty sure that isn't an oil pump. I'm no fan of HD and their business practices, but it seems pushing it with the misinformation.
No misinformation there. The fitting is a piece of the oil pump assembly. It's a part H-D has been using for 70+ years.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:00 PM   #69101
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I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
I'm sorry you interpret that as badmouthing. That was certainly not my intention. I was just pointing out one reason why H-D dealers are able to keep many needed parts in stock. And why sometimes they are much less expensive than similar Japanese parts.

In addition I was trying to point out something most non-Harley types don't know - that the first year of many parts life is appended to the part number. If you skim through a H-D parts manual it's amazing how many part numbers are 35+ years old and still going into current bikes.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:05 PM   #69102
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Then there is the fitting they SHOULD change due to obvious failure and they don't.
Fuel pressure regulator?

Oops!.... That time it was Harley bashing
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:07 PM   #69103
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Fuel pressure regulator?

Oops!.... That time it was Harley bashing
Oh, I was referring to Suzuki, not Hardleys.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:50 PM   #69104
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Hey DR guys. I usually hang out over on the Honda XR650l side of the fence but my buddy has asked me to look at his buds DR650. Looks like a late 90's model. Yellow fork boots and blue/purple frame.

The engine will start and idle but will not take throttle. Once the throttle is twisted some it will rev a bit and then fall on it's face, not accepting throttle. It's my guess that the diaphram in the carb is bad or leaking and not allowing vacuum to lift the slide.

What say you DR guru's?
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:20 PM   #69105
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I don't believe the 800GS BMW is all that much better than the XC off road. Neither come close to the DR.

Other than that I agree ... although everyone I know with F800's replaces the suspension first thing. Also ... they DO HAVE some issues ... unlike the little Tiger, which has been relatively bullet proof.

The point you missed was what happens on either of those bikes even with a minor tip over. EXPENSIVE!! The DR crashes very well ... with bark busters and case covers ... its nearly indestructible. I know this from personal experience and 48K miles on my current DR. (I've had three)
When the GS or XC hit the ground ... $$$$$$$$$$$ !!!

If you stay on pavement then the XC Tiger is a smooth, fun and good handling bike. Not all that fast but has a nice personality. Once packed up for the road she's a heavy beast, well over 500 lbs. Still, fun and engaging and good on ANY paved road... and did I mention reliable? Unlike the F800GS.
Stay on the pavement, over 500 pounds,

I'll just take my old faithful GS,

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