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Old 09-13-2012, 02:17 PM   #69106
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We all have different definitions of the perfect bike(s), that's what keeps things interesting, but I think I speak for everyone when I say GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A WOMAN TO AGREE TO 5 BIKES!!!! (and if she does agree, does she have a sister?)
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My girlfriend is all about the five bikes as long as I let her have her five bikes as well. And yes, she has a sister.
Hehe, my wife and I definitely have no restraint when it comes to bikes. I think we have 8 in the garage right now. She really doesn't seem to mind since she just got a 2012 Ducati Monster 696 about a month ago.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:47 PM   #69107
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While I'm no fan of Harleys (more due to their excessive Bling factor and the fact that many of their proponents are in it more for the image than for the ride), I can appreciate the "old" parts that never change. The Japanese tend to reinvent everything every 4-6 years just for the sake of reinventing it. I say, if it ain't broke, don't reinvent it. But then you can't really laud Harley for this to keep costs low because their bikes are massively overpriced (IMO).

Crap I don't remember where I was going with this. Oh well. Love that DR650! :)

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Then there is the fitting they SHOULD change due to obvious failure and they don't.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:58 PM   #69108
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Odd, when I look up that part number, I get "Product ID: 63533-41A, FITTING, STRAIGHT" from one site, and from another "FITTING, STRAIGHT, W/SEALANT (63533-41A)", with a price between $3.99 and 3.75. I'm pretty sure that isn't an oil pump. I'm no fan of HD and their business practices, but it seems pushing it with the misinformation.
No misinformation there. The fitting is a piece of the oil pump assembly. It's a part H-D has been using for 70+ years.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:00 PM   #69109
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I do appreciate all the work that Procycle has done for DR parts, but of all the reasons to bad mouth HD, that's reaching.
I'm sorry you interpret that as badmouthing. That was certainly not my intention. I was just pointing out one reason why H-D dealers are able to keep many needed parts in stock. And why sometimes they are much less expensive than similar Japanese parts.

In addition I was trying to point out something most non-Harley types don't know - that the first year of many parts life is appended to the part number. If you skim through a H-D parts manual it's amazing how many part numbers are 35+ years old and still going into current bikes.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:05 PM   #69110
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Then there is the fitting they SHOULD change due to obvious failure and they don't.
Fuel pressure regulator?

Oops!.... That time it was Harley bashing
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:07 PM   #69111
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Fuel pressure regulator?

Oops!.... That time it was Harley bashing
Oh, I was referring to Suzuki, not Hardleys.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:50 PM   #69112
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Hey DR guys. I usually hang out over on the Honda XR650l side of the fence but my buddy has asked me to look at his buds DR650. Looks like a late 90's model. Yellow fork boots and blue/purple frame.

The engine will start and idle but will not take throttle. Once the throttle is twisted some it will rev a bit and then fall on it's face, not accepting throttle. It's my guess that the diaphram in the carb is bad or leaking and not allowing vacuum to lift the slide.

What say you DR guru's?
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:20 PM   #69113
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I don't believe the 800GS BMW is all that much better than the XC off road. Neither come close to the DR.

Other than that I agree ... although everyone I know with F800's replaces the suspension first thing. Also ... they DO HAVE some issues ... unlike the little Tiger, which has been relatively bullet proof.

The point you missed was what happens on either of those bikes even with a minor tip over. EXPENSIVE!! The DR crashes very well ... with bark busters and case covers ... its nearly indestructible. I know this from personal experience and 48K miles on my current DR. (I've had three)
When the GS or XC hit the ground ... $$$$$$$$$$$ !!!

If you stay on pavement then the XC Tiger is a smooth, fun and good handling bike. Not all that fast but has a nice personality. Once packed up for the road she's a heavy beast, well over 500 lbs. Still, fun and engaging and good on ANY paved road... and did I mention reliable? Unlike the F800GS.
Stay on the pavement, over 500 pounds,

I'll just take my old faithful GS,

Suzuki GS that is, bought new in 1979

'79 GS1000E - about 550 pounds ready to roll, 90 HP, smooth inline 4, still fun 33 years later!




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Old 09-13-2012, 04:26 PM   #69114
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OH my that GS looks fine. I had one that matches yours, loved it did many a trip and silly things on it .
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:40 PM   #69115
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OH my that GS looks fine. I had one that matches yours, loved it did many a trip and silly things on it .
Thanks! I've really enjoyed that bike and have done a few crazy things back in the day on mine, too. Shorts, flip flops, helmet, girl in a swimsuit on the back, seeing if it would really run 125, (it would) running from the man, (only twice, didn't want to push my luck!)


Oh yeah, not all of the above at the same time!


Still have trouble keeping the front wheel on the ground for an entire ride, though...

She's a blast to run the rpm up and go through the gears!

We now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

My DR650 got a new (slightly used) Corbin seat tonight and I'm taking off tomorrow to do some scouting.

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Old 09-13-2012, 04:50 PM   #69116
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Hey DR guys. I usually hang out over on the Honda XR650l side of the fence but my buddy has asked me to look at his buds DR650. Looks like a late 90's model. Yellow fork boots and blue/purple frame.

The engine will start and idle but will not take throttle. Once the throttle is twisted some it will rev a bit and then fall on it's face, not accepting throttle. It's my guess that the diaphram in the carb is bad or leaking and not allowing vacuum to lift the slide.

What say you DR guru's?
Could be the diaphragm but I'd bet on the Pilot Jet. With your experience you should have no prob pulling the carb off and giving it a good clean.
Sometimes grit hangs up in the small Pilot Jet passages, has to be 100% clean to run well.

Parts in the BST Carbs do wear out over time. Slide, Jet Needle. Also maybe pull the needle jet in the float bowl, check for debris and make sure rubber tip is firm and sharp.

Sometimes its cheaper to buy a nice used, low time BST Carb and just put that on. Good luck, hope you get her up and running!

MCMA? I used to be a member in the early 90's. I hear the property is looking good with new trails. Great group of guys!!
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:01 PM   #69117
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Early 90's? Been a member since 1983.

Not the pilot jet as it runs off choke at idle. Just will not accept throttle. I stopped by my buds work while he was taking care of a asshole customer on the phone. I started the bike, turned off the choke and it idled but will not rev up. I told him to check the diaphram for leaks or tears.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:02 PM   #69118
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Could be the diaphragm but I'd bet on the Pilot Jet. With your experience you should have no prob pulling the carb off and giving it a good clean.
Sometimes grit hangs up in the small Pilot Jet passages, has to be 100% clean to run well.

Parts in the BST Carbs do wear out over time. Slide, Jet Needle. Also maybe pull the needle jet in the float bowl, check for debris and make sure rubber tip is firm and sharp.

Sometimes its cheaper to buy a nice used, low time BST Carb and just put that on. Good luck, hope you get her up and running!

MCMA? I used to be a member in the early 90's. I hear the property is looking good with new trails. Great group of guys!!
If it has the stock petcock, try setting it on prime to rule out a problem with the vacuum petcock.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:02 PM   #69119
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If it has the stock petcock, try setting it on prime to rule out a problem with the vacuum petcock.

Check
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:25 PM   #69120
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I have to agree... the 705's for me are damn near silent. When I ran 606's on my DR650, their whine was audible over the wind noise (with earplugs in).
Maybe it's a WeeStrom thing .... some combination of tire noise and fairing reflections. All I know is that my 705's were quiet when new, but increasingly the front is getting louder, over a broader road speed range. I have about 10K miles on the front with lots of tread left and not noticeable cupping. Anyway, this is the DR thread and so far I'm a happy camper with my front 606 on the DR. Will spoon on the rear in a week or so.

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